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  1. #2651
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    Yup, and some simple design decisions, like a wider height slider, may not even occur to them. Not to say that they're not a brilliant and creative team, but sometimes obvious solutions elude even such people until the spark of inspiration arises in some unexpected corner. The entire purpose of forum feedback is precisely to assist in correcting these blindspots, be it in gameplay design or other areas.
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  2. #2652
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    This statement makes me very conflicted. I mean, on one hand, that's going to be the case no matter what happens unless someone here has the cash to buy SE and directly dictate their vision to Yoshida.
    On the other hand, if it was left up to the developers, we wouldn't have male Viera in this game even in 20 years.
    I meant the design should be left up to the developers.
    We should all show our support to get male viera included in the game, of course.
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  3. #2653
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    There's two things to consider here.

    1) The design will ultimately be left up to them, whether we like it or not. That's a given. Especially in cases of world-building, I think devs should have the final say. This does not mean I will refrain from offering an opinion, particularly if I feel it's a bad decision, but in the end it is their game, they are paid to design it and I think in the FFXIV team's case, it is a product of their love for the setting they have created, and one which they mostly do a very stellar job in expanding.

    However, 2) as we saw with Eureka, they do rely on feedback for fine-tuning and also for new ideas. Vigorous debate on here is a good thing because it shows them people care about the topic and also acts as an incubator for arguments/ideas they may have in the back of their minds, allowing them to readily see the pros and cons of these. This is probably a bit more relevant to gameplay mechanic discussions, but certainly could also factor into decisions such as how wide to make the height slider. And then there's those sparks of inspiration I mentioned. It also helps them figure out dead ends and potential sprouts to nurture.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 04-06-2019 at 07:18 AM.

  4. #2654
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    In the end, I think it should be left up to the developers.
    I'm with Senn on this, not because I think they should ignore our feedback, but because we are talking about viera, I would love to see and play something made by the original designers of the race, not a feedback-altered design.
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    Last edited by Renik; 04-06-2019 at 07:53 AM.

  5. #2655
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    I'm with Senn on this, not because I think they should ignore our feedback, but because we are talking about viera, I would love to see and play something made by the original designers of the race, not a feedback-altered design.
    Agreed. Like I said before, feel free to post your opinions in this thread. It's fine. Keeps conversation going. Even I've shared my preferences.
    But when it comes down to it, I want the devs to do their own thing. If they implement viera, I trust their judgement. They already did a great job with female viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Agreed. Like I said before, feel free to post your opinions in this thread. It's fine. Keeps conversation going. Even I've shared my preferences.
    But when it comes down to it, I want the devs to do their own thing. If they implement viera, I trust their judgement. They already did a great job with female viera.
    To this I fully agree.
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    This was top rate thread for two weeks running.

    Presumably Yoshi-P will be briefed a second time on Monday. There are still articles being generated about it, so I don't think their strategy of hoping it dies down will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niteypants View Post
    ...
    Top rate? Is there a weekly top rated thread or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Top rate? Is there a weekly top rated thread or something?
    I am genuinely interested about this information as well.
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    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


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    Don't underestimate their ability to ignore people and hide from problems.
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