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  1. #2321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Some other person on there drew male viera with a figure skaters physique and did a height comparison to male miqo'te. I thought they did a good job.
    Well, seeing that heigth comparison just killed my hype for male viera... I would never play something as short, we are asking for male viera, not hobbits, that serously looks like a whole different race...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Were they being mad at us?
    No. Some were discussing how they wanted Alphinaud's model as a base. Others were discussing it might be an ethical issue over seas.
    From what I have been reading, it appears that the people on the japanese forum prefer a more slim body type. This is just an assumption, but those likes on the buff pics are probably mostly from the NA forum right now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Well, seeing that heigth comparison just killed my hype for male viera... I would never play something as short, we are asking for male viera, not hobbits, that serously looks like a whole different race...
    I personally like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I doubt anyone is going to be surprised by that statement, given your established preferences.
    You'd be surprised. I don't care too much about the height. My primary concern is the thinness of male viera. Although if they're around the same height as the females, or even a tad shorter, that'd be fine too.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    At this point I've kind of made peace with Omega-M as a base. It's not too far from the concept art (max... that.... muscle slider!) and adheres to what Yoshida's had as his go-to description for male Viera.
    That's what I've been saying this entire time man. Omega m as a base would be ideal.

    hit post cap just fyi

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
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    Whatever you say is your business, and I'm not trying to police what you say, but on the japanese forum, you're sort of violating a social norm. The japanese tend not to be confrontational. Occasionally, they'll make posts disagreeing with each other, but for the most part, they only voice what they would like, and not confront others. In fact, they were having an argument earlier about this very thing in that thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I dont want Viera to be any Miqote or Highlander. Thats why these 2 exist and we can fantasia to them anytime.
    I'd rather want Viera to be what our giraffes cant be. Some good looking slim race (with muscle slider, I dont mind). Just with better proportions and physics and better faces, and a fixed neck. So basically something unique.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    I don't mind the body type, but that height is just reverse Au Ra... for me is same max height or nothing, pull the slider down all you want, I dont care, but beign forced to be short is a big no.
    I'm not talking about body types or anything at this point. What I'm trying to say is that the japanese have a certain way of discourse on their forum, and... well, nevermind. If they get angry, they'll get angry lol

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Senn, stop, take a break, come back later. We can't all keep going back to that one post like a black hole amalgamation of the debate that came after it.

    LOL omg I really dislike this posting limit
    I'll just be back later.
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    Last edited by Senn; 04-03-2019 at 07:37 AM.

  4. #2324
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormygabe View Post
    A manly body with a FABULOUS face. PERFECT FOR EVERYONE!
    I wouldn't say it's 'perfect'. It's virtually no different a Miqo'te other than having bunny rather than cat ears. Something a bit more different would be preferable. If that's what some you want, you can get virtually the same effect by sticking the bunny ears from The Gold Saucer onto a Miqo'te.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I personally like it.
    I doubt anyone is going to be surprised by that statement, given your established preferences.
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  5. #2325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Others were discussing it might be an ethical issue over seas.
    They're not wrong.

    From what I have been reading, it appears that the people on the japanese forum prefer a more slim body type. This is just an assumption, but those likes on the buff pics are probably mostly from the NA forum right now lol
    At this point I've kind of made peace with Omega-M as a base. It's not too far from the concept art (max... that.... muscle slider!) and adheres to what Yoshida's had as his go-to description for male Viera.
    Which is a completely separate debate from how tall they'd be. I'm hoping that between their tendency to make the guys taller, and the negative feedback regarding the Au Ra height differences, that they won't indulge in it too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I wouldn't say it's 'perfect'. It's virtually no different a Miqo'te other than having bunny rather than cat ears
    Yeah, the nose is off. It's one of the things I like about the female Viera models, they do look rather bunny-ish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    That's what I've been saying this entire time man. Omega m as a base would be ideal.
    The lesser evil =\= ideal. I'd still much prefer male Au Ra as a base.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 04-03-2019 at 07:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I wouldn't say it's 'perfect'. It's virtually no different a Miqo'te other than having bunny rather than cat ears. Something a bit more different would be preferable. If that's what some you want, you can get virtually the same effect by sticking the bunny ears from The Gold Saucer onto a Miqo'te.
    But you could say the same thing about making them buff. Put Gold Saucer bunny ears on your Highlander and give him red eyes and white hair. Boom. There ya go. Instant buff bun bro. (Also I like Cat Daddy's ears as they are. He doesn't need rabbit ears as well.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormygabe View Post
    But you could say the same thing about making them buff. Put Gold Saucer bunny ears on your Highlander and give him red eyes and white hair. Boom. There ya go. Instant buff bun bro. (Also I like Cat Daddy's ears as they are. He doesn't need rabbit ears as well.)
    Well, no - you couldn't. None of the artwork for Viera men that has been posted looks remotely like a Highlander. Meanwhile, a lot of the artwork posted for 'smaller' Viera men is quite objectively just a Miqo'te look-alike with bunny ears stuck on. Let's not be disingenuous.
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    I dont want Viera to be like any Miqote or Highlander body. Thats why these 2 exist and we can fantasia to them anytime.
    I'd rather want Viera to be what our giraffes cant be. Some good looking slim race (with muscle slider, I dont mind). Just with better proportions and physics and better faces, and a fixed neck. So basically something unique, the height... well thats something to discuss for.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 04-03-2019 at 07:33 AM.

  9. #2329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
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    I don't mind the body type, but that height is just reverse Au Ra... for me is same max height or nothing, pull the slider down all you want, I dont care, but beign forced to be short is a big no.
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  10. #2330
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    Senn, stop, take a break, come back later. We can't all keep going back to that one post like a black hole amalgamation of the debate that came after it.

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