Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[ZellosWilder]

Then the only original one would be Au Ra, the others come from XI.

While I agree that FFXI and FFXIV races are just copies, they ain't the exact same tho even tho they are very similar.

Galka's in FFXI have tails while Roegadyn do not. Galka lore wise had no females due to how they reincarnate after death.

Tarutaru in FFXI had cute weird triangle-ish shaped noses and looked more like little munchkins living in the woods and they were also the most popular race because imo they were more cute especially with the JP audience. Lalafell look more like little elf children in FF14.

Elvaan/Elezen are just the elf race but I'm sure all their race had tanned skin in FF11 thats just how they were.

Mithra were only female because of how rare the males were lore wise and they also looked more feral from the wild as an amazonian tribal race compared to how Miqo'te look.

Humes/Hyur are just human race.

All the races from FFXI to FFXIV also have different names because they have slight differences, pretty sure they changed their names to make sure their lore isn't the same so they could do different things with them.


While the Viera seems to be the exact same race coming over from FFXII with the exact same name that is why I said it.

[xbahax92]

I spotted a male Viera today! Ingame!



Oh... wait... that... Prompto!!

[Emmanellain]

I keep seeing that and I feel like people misunderstood what Yoshida said (not you specifically, generally). All four race-gender combinations were never an option, is what it looks like to me. That's a misunderstanding born out of us getting two "races" now.
We got one race - two genders, two clans per gender, which is likely what was the plan all along. When Yoshida said they were (likely) not going to release more races, he was likely setting up a semi surprise regarding Hrothgars - they're a new race but not in terms of development costs. But the core thing here is that when he was talking about resources, he was likely talking about moving forward - they wouldn't be able to long term support two full races added. So they thought they were doing us a favor by mix-and-matching, using this "last race" opportunity to give us as much variety as they could... in the process, once again, missing the mark on what a lot of players actually wanted with their requests.

People who asked for beastly races also wanted females.
People who asked for Viera also wanted the males.

And now, while this situation was born out of a lack of resources and good will, they very likely will be forced to give us at least one of the missing options if not both due to the outrage. It's somewhat poetic, if not for the fact this would probably murder gear designs moving forward, to make it easier on the rendering team.

It would definitely force them to hire more animators to make the gear, if they can barely launch the races with gear but no headgear I bet a lot of aspiring graduates around japan will stand ready with their resumes to sit and do nothing but hats/gear for the next two years.

This game is competing with WoW, they need to start hiring more hands, and the upper levels need to allocate more funds for Yoshi and his dev team.

[LyraKuroneko]

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actually pet that come from eureka says that the races from XI are the ancestors of the ones in XIV.

So, they're the "same".

[Lauront]

It would definitely force them to hire more animators to make the gear, if they can barely launch the races with gear but no headgear I bet a lot of aspiring graduates around japan will stand ready with their resumes to sit and do nothing but hats/gear for the next two years.

This game is competing with WoW, they need to start hiring more hands, and the upper levels need to allocate more funds for Yoshi and his dev team.

Seconded. I think the "smol indy studio" meme needs to die. They're not about to release another MMO, so treating this game with a bit more love than nothing but a pure cashcow would go a long way.

On the other hand, if their intention is just to spend as little on it as possible and get it on the Switch as a strategy for getting more players, I'd find that rather sad.

[reivaxe]

I keep seeing that and I feel like people misunderstood what Yoshida said (not you specifically, generally). All four race-gender combinations were never an option, is what it looks like to me. That's a misunderstanding born out of us getting two "races" now.
We got one race - two genders, two clans per gender, which is likely what was the plan all along. When Yoshida said they were (likely) not going to release more races, he was likely setting up a semi surprise regarding Hrothgars - they're a new race but not in terms of development costs. But the core thing here is that when he was talking about resources, he was likely talking about moving forward - they wouldn't be able to long term support two full races added. So they thought they were doing us a favor by mix-and-matching, using this "last race" opportunity to give us as much variety as they could... in the process, once again, missing the mark on what a lot of players actually wanted with their requests.

People who asked for beastly races also wanted females.
People who asked for Viera also wanted the males.

And now, while this situation was born out of a lack of resources and good will, they very likely will be forced to give us at least one of the missing options if not both due to the outrage. It's somewhat poetic, if not for the fact this would probably murder gear designs moving forward, to make it easier on the rendering team.

I agree in that people have tossed reading comprehension out the door with all this drama.

It's not that they didn't have time to make both genders. They simply don't have the means to support anymore of these new bodies going forward with their current work flow and meet their release of content at the pace they're going at. It's not something that can be taken lightly, it permanently affects the work load moving forward.

But they're not forced to do anything. The "outrage" is a vocal minority and the vast majority of people who play this game are some level of apathetic to this so it's not going to hurt them to stay the course at all.

[ZellosWilder]

actually pet that come from eureka says that the races from XI are the ancestors of the ones in XIV.

So, they're the "same".

I haven't done any Eureka as a returning player yet but that's absolute nonsense if true, the lore team seem to be making up shit as they go now. I remember they clearly wanted to change the race names so that they could avoid the lore of FFXI and said they wanted to keep Vana'diel and Hydaelyn disconnected.

Can you link me to any lore explaining exactly what your stating?

From what I've seen searching I can only see things where players are saying that there are references only for us players, nothing solid about talking about them being actual ancestors of them due to lore reasons.

[VirusOnline]

The "outrage" is a vocal minority and the vast majority of people who play this game are some level of apathetic to this so it's not going to hurt them to stay the course at all.

No one knows the statistics in regards to minority/majority.

[Roda]

I haven't done any Eureka as a returning player yet but that's absolute nonsense if true, the lore team seem to be making up shit as they go now. I remember they clearly wanted to change the race names so that they could avoid the lore of FFXI and said they wanted to keep Vana'diel and Hydaelyn disconnected.

Can you link me to any lore explaining exactly what your stating?

From what I've seen searching I can only see things where players are saying that there are references only for us players, nothing solid about talking about them being actual ancestors of them due to lore reasons.

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Wind-up_Mithra

No one knows the statistics in regards to minority/majority.

Hey! They're vocal! That automatically means they're a minority!!!
/s

[Lauront]

No one knows the statistics in regards to minority/majority.

Easier to just make them up when arguing a point.