Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Lauront]

And? Just because a meme dies doesn't mean the reality dies with it.

Let's be honest - how many of those ERPers are cat or lizard girls? Does that bother you as much?

improve the game as a whole.

Yush, like the Dad of Light.

[ZellosWilder]

The only main reason as to why I can think they don't want Male Viera might be simply because the race isn't an original race to FFXIV.

The FFXIV dev team might not even have control over how they create the race due to rights being with Square-Enix and the creator of Fran/Viera race from FFXII if they deem the race only to be shown as female then there's nothing the 14 dev team can do but even if that was the case the dev team should be a little more open about it.

I for one ain't too bothered about the whole matter as others are as I'm never going to change my character anyways and it just seems like a minor issue compared to other things which have a far more larger impact on the game, I'm more worried about actually new/fresh varied content coming from the new expansion without it feeling like the same old boring formula from previous expansions.

[Roda]

The creator of viera has come out and said he didnt give a "no males" order.
(Though I forgot where the tweet was so someone more savvy will have to find it for you)

[xbahax92]

I for one ain't too bothered about the whole matter as others are as I'm never going to change my character anyways and it just seems like a minor issue compared to other things which have a far more larger impact on the game, I'm more worried about actually new/fresh varied content coming from the new expansion without it feeling like the same old boring formula from previous expansions.

In this case, not talking about you but in general who brings up resources, people do not dislike genderlocks, but rather new races being introduced and implemented into the game.

I mean, it seems quite okay that mHrothgar and fViera is playable in 5.0, but it would be a waste of resources to see opposite genders?
Sounds to me like some people are rather just extremely salty and try to use every small excuse to counter what people wish for.
I can also say fViera and mHroth should of used for better, new content. But I am not. Why? Because there are players who enjoy it.
So maybe some people should just sit down and chill their butts.

[jake200135]

The only main reason as to why I can think they don't want Male Viera might be simply because the race isn't an original race to FFXIV.

The FFXIV dev team might not even have control over how they create the race due to rights being with Square-Enix and the creator of Fran/Viera race from FFXII if they deem the race only to be shown as female then there's nothing the 14 dev team can do but even if that was the case the dev team should be a little more open about it.

I for one ain't too bothered about the whole matter as others are as I'm never going to change my character anyways and it just seems like a minor issue compared to other things which have a far more larger impact on the game, I'm more worried about actually new/fresh varied content coming from the new expansion without it feeling like the same old boring formula from previous expansions.

And why can't we be bothered by both? FFXIV makes enough money for Square that they can damn sure put more budget into this game. I want more varied content for this game, but I also want a removal of gender locks on races. That's not asking for a lot. Worrying about one doesn't negate the other. Plus, they may start with limiting jobs, and then limiting races, but what will they limit next? We pay a monthly subscription for this game, we don't deserve to have the game be limited.

[jake200135]

The creator of viera has come out and said he didnt give a "no males" order.
(Though I forgot where the tweet was so someone more savvy will have to find it for you)

Here is a reddit post with a link to the tweet: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...valice_series/

This proves that they can't use Matsuno as an excuse, even he said he had no part in the decision.

[ZellosWilder]

The creator of viera has come out and said he didnt give a "no males" order.
(Though I forgot where the tweet was so someone more savvy will have to find it for you)

Ah ok I wasn't aware of this since I haven't seen it myself.

In this case, not talking about you but in general who brings up resources, people do not dislike genderlocks but new races being introduced and implemented in the game.

I mean, its quite okay that mHrothgar and fViera is playable in 5.0, but it would be a waste of resources to see opposite genders?
Sounds to me like some people are rather just extremely salty and try to use every small excuse to counter what people wish for.
I can also say fViera and mHroth should of used for better and new content. But I am not. Why? Because there are players who enjoy it.
So maybe some people should just sit down and chill their butts.

I'm more neutral tbh if they don't add males then I'm fine with it but if they do add males then I also fine with it just doesn't really affect me with either choice.

At the end of the day are players going to quit the game because of it? I don't think so and that is why I say its minor and why I mention the content from the new expansion as an example as that's going to probably going be the main reason why I'll be still playing for another 2yrs not because of character creation restrictions. (even tho I've seen players saying they are quitting over genderlocked races)

Also everyone has their own wishlist of things that they want to be added to the game but not everyone's wish can be granted or in this case if they do decide to add both genders in the future its just not going to be priority at this very moment.

And why can't we be bothered by both? FFXIV makes enough money for Square that they can damn sure put more budget into this game. I want more varied content for this game, but I also want a removal of gender locks on races. That's not asking for a lot. Worrying about one doesn't negate the other. Plus, they may start with limiting jobs, and then limiting races, but what will they limit next? We pay a monthly subscription for this game, we don't deserve to have the game be limited.

If u read my post I said "I" not "everyone" other players can be bothered about both I never they can't but I'm sharing my opinion on it and it doesn't affect me either way if they add males or not as I stated I'm never going to change my character so it's only natural for me to care more about other things in the game.

Also limiting jobs already kinda exists because you can only focus on gearing one of your jobs due to the tomestone weekly restriction on new expansions/updates. If you want to do the latest endgame content you have to limit yourself due to the tomestone limitation.

[jake200135]

If u read my post I said "I" not "everyone" other players can be bothered about both I never they can't but I'm sharing my opinion on it and it doesn't affect me either way if they add males or not as I stated I'm never going to change my character so it's only natural for me to care more about other things in the game.

Also limiting jobs already kinda exists because you can only focus on gearing one of your jobs due to the tomestone weekly restriction on new expansions/updates. If you want to do the latest endgame content you have to limit yourself due to the tomestone limitation.

Ah, the good ol' classic "if you read my post". I did read your post and I presented a counter argument to it. I'm allowed to do that on a forum. Plus, my comment about limited jobs was a knock on them limiting BLU.

[LyraKuroneko]

The only main reason as to why I can think they don't want Male Viera might be simply because the race isn't an original race to FFXIV.

Then the only original one would be Au Ra, the others come from XI.

They didn't make it because they lacked time. Now we can wait and see what the feedback gives us.

[BillyKaplan]

They didn't make it because they lacked time.

I keep seeing that and I feel like people misunderstood what Yoshida said (not you specifically, generally). All four race-gender combinations were never an option, is what it looks like to me. That's a misunderstanding born out of us getting two "races" now.
We got one race - two genders, two clans per gender, which is likely what was the plan all along. When Yoshida said they were (likely) not going to release more races, he was likely setting up a semi surprise regarding Hrothgars - they're a new race but not in terms of development costs. But the core thing here is that when he was talking about resources, he was likely talking about moving forward - they wouldn't be able to long term support two full races added. So they thought they were doing us a favor by mix-and-matching, using this "last race" opportunity to give us as much variety as they could... in the process, once again, missing the mark on what a lot of players actually wanted with their requests.

People who asked for beastly races also wanted females.
People who asked for Viera also wanted the males.

And now, while this situation was born out of a lack of resources and good will, they very likely will be forced to give us at least one of the missing options if not both due to the outrage. It's somewhat poetic, if not for the fact this would probably murder gear designs moving forward, to make it easier on the rendering team.