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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    But in a way he is correct, everyone does pay the same minimum amount of money to play this game. Everyone is free to pay more, but it doesnt give you more "voice" than someone who doesnt.

    And thats the point I wanted to say. As long they use their resources wisely just like they did on mHroth/fViera, I dont see a big problem to see opposing genders in 6.0.
    But many try to tell me that these missing resources would affect their gameplay - while same can be said that mHroth/fViera might affect 5.0.
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    I disagree with you.

    It's Most people are okay with genderlocks.
    Fair enough, I know when I’m wrong!
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I'd think fantasia sales would be a pretty good incentive too though. Out of all the things you could add to the game, new race options have the most potential to get people spending money on the mogstation. I mean, the gays have plenty of money to spend on fantasia. Most don't have screaming kids to support. Male Viera alone should have SE seeing $$$. :v
    I dunno. Your average mogstation item seems much more lucrative if you ask me. Even considering the fantasia addicts, won't they most likely continue switching races even without male viera/female hrothgar? Actually, isn't there a chance that the new race clicks so well that some former addicts just stick with the new race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
    I think most people outside of the OP realize that the people asking for the genderlocks to be removed aren't the majority. That doesn't mean there isn't a significant number of people requesting that though. Just look at the likes on the threads. You're never going to get the majority to become involved in something like this, but a good enough number of people requesting something can still accomplish things.


    The majority didn't care about genderlocked miqote and roegadyn either and look where we are now. People just have to be persistent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    I dunno. Your average mogstation item seems much more lucrative if you ask me. Even considering the fantasia addicts, won't they most likely continue switching races even without male viera/female hrothgar? Actually, isn't there a chance that the new race clicks so well that some former addicts just stick with the new race?
    In general, just adding more races gives people more reasons to fantasia. When you add a highly requested race you're going to get lots of people suddenly wanting to fantasia that might not have wanted to originally.
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    Last edited by Lacan; 04-02-2019 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I mean, the gays have plenty of money to spend on fantasia. Most don't have screaming kids to support.
    So they can't have other priorities in life that require money? Gay people are just like anyone else, they may or may not have kids (which shouldn't even be factor) but that doesn't mean they all have lots of money. What a ridiculous way to stereotype....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    So they can't have other priorities in life that require money? Gay people are just like anyone else, they may or may not have kids (which shouldn't even be factor) but that doesn't mean they all have lots of money. What a ridiculous way to stereotype....
    I just know I'm sick of hearing straight people's screaming kids on discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I just know I'm sick of hearing straight people's screaming kids on discord.
    I'm curious why is then that gay people want Male Viera so bad? Can you elaborate on that for all of us? I'm somewhat amazed that you would actually turn this into a gay related issue.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-02-2019 at 12:34 AM.

  8. #78
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    As I stated in multiple other threads that should've all just been one big thread so as to consolidate feedback, it appears as though these 'majority' complaints are mostly from the NA/EU datacenters, and from the amount of back and forth on all threads, all this new thread does is show the dev team exactly how split the NA community is about genderlocks. There is no cohesive 'we', and every genderlock thread seems to have just as many supporters as detractors. So, these threads just show how divided the playerbase is, and how there is no such thing as a 'majority' - especially when you look at how low the number of actual FFXIV players are who visit and frequent the forums.

    Then again, while I'm in the NA, I'm Japanese and so have a different cultural view as all of this, much along the lines of what is the societal and cultural norm for most JPN and SEA. While it would be nice to have more options, it simply isn't possible yet given their relatively short time to launch, as Yoshida has mentioned they were already low on time/resources just doing the races they're implementing now. We need to have patience, and accept graciously what we're getting while hoping for more later, instead of demanding things happen right now or 'soon' when doing so would hinder already time and resource strapped developers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
    Funny how people get to assume that the majority is for genderlocks but those assuming they are against it have to prove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm curious why is then that gay people want Male Viera so bad? Can you elaborate on that for all of us?
    Because they expect them to look good Layla, why else? Why are you playing a tiny au ra waifu? I'm assuming because you think it looks good?
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