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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Well... by virtue of not being a majority, you aren't "paying for the game as much as anyone else is".

    I would prefer Square focus on delivering quality content first and foremost.
    Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is.
    No one IS a majority, but they might contribute to a majority if there's any way of discerning one.
    You're both entitled to your views, and to suggest your preferred outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is.
    No one IS a majority, but they might contribute to a majority if there's any way of discerning one.
    You're both entitled to your views, and to suggest your preferred outcomes.
    "Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is."

    Sadly, also not true. Retainers... mogstation. Everyone is paying different amounts than everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post

    Sadly, also not true. Retainers... mogstation. Everyone is paying different amounts than everyone else.
    I feel attacked in my Eastern Garb and motorcycle mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    "Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is."

    Sadly, also not true. Retainers... mogstation. Everyone is paying different amounts than everyone else.
    I didnt know feeding more money to SE makes me a VIP.

    Lets be honest, even with the finite resources, we are getting our quality content. And a male Hrothgar/ female Viera additional to that. Lets not act like the expansion looks emptier while it does include new (half) races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I didnt know feeding more money to SE makes me a VIP.

    Lets be honest, even with the finite resources, we are getting our quality content. And a male Hrothgar/ female Viera additional to that. Lets not act like the expansion looks emptier while it does include new (half) races.
    Never suggested that it made anyone a VIP. Just stating that using the statement "Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is." as a justification for pushing Square to make Male Viera / Female Hrothgar is a fallacy.

    Personally I'm quite happy with Female Viera. I also wouldn't have been upset with no new races at all. Just make the Raids shiny and I'm happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    I feel attacked in my Eastern Garb and motorcycle mount.
    I've got a Whale mount >.>

    I'm attacking myself as well ;-;
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Never suggested that it made anyone a VIP. Just stating that using the statement "Every individual is paying for the game as much as anyone else is." as a justification for pushing Square to make Male Viera / Female Hrothgar is a fallacy.

    Personally I'm quite happy with Female Viera. I also wouldn't have been upset with no new races at all. Just make the Raids shiny and I'm happy.
    But in a way he is correct, everyone does pay the same minimum amount of money to play this game. Everyone is free to pay more, but it doesnt give you more "voice" than someone who doesnt.

    And thats the point I wanted to say. As long they use their resources wisely just like they did on mHroth/fViera, I dont see a big problem to see opposing genders in 6.0.
    But many try to tell me that these missing resources would affect their gameplay - while same can be said that mHroth/fViera might affect 5.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    But in a way he is correct, everyone does pay the same minimum amount of money to play this game. Everyone is free to pay more, but it doesnt give you more "voice" than someone who doesnt.

    And thats the point I wanted to say. As long they use their resources wisely just like they did on mHroth/fViera, I dont see a big problem to see opposing genders in 6.0.
    But many try to tell me that these missing resources would affect their gameplay - while same can be said that mHroth/fViera might affect 5.0.
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
    I think most people outside of the OP realize that the people asking for the genderlocks to be removed aren't the majority. That doesn't mean there isn't a significant number of people requesting that though. Just look at the likes on the threads. You're never going to get the majority to become involved in something like this, but a good enough number of people requesting something can still accomplish things.


    The majority didn't care about genderlocked miqote and roegadyn either and look where we are now. People just have to be persistent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    I dunno. Your average mogstation item seems much more lucrative if you ask me. Even considering the fantasia addicts, won't they most likely continue switching races even without male viera/female hrothgar? Actually, isn't there a chance that the new race clicks so well that some former addicts just stick with the new race?
    In general, just adding more races gives people more reasons to fantasia. When you add a highly requested race you're going to get lots of people suddenly wanting to fantasia that might not have wanted to originally.
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    Last edited by Lacan; 04-02-2019 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Which pulls back around to my original argument that the gender unlock crowd is not in fact the majority, and as such represent less revenue. They are simply highly vocal about this, while the satisfied players rarely feel the need to speak up.
    Funny how people get to assume that the majority is for genderlocks but those assuming they are against it have to prove it.
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