Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Fukuro]

Aight you're welcome.
I'm just gonna say though, if the male viera end up looking buff, I'm not going to be playing as one.
Although I'd still be happy we got male viera at all...

Im about 95% sure that they won't add buff vieras (Just after we got buff lions Even tho that's still open to discuss). I think they kind of made it clear, that they would go for a more slender/slim/elegant/beautiful look (Omega/elezen type?) IF male vieras become a thing! maybe add young/cuter faces and more beautiful/mature faces to please a wider spectrum (kind of what miqo'te's have?). The height tho is a good question to discuss! Maybe make the slider more extreme?

Of course a subrace thing like what hyurs have would be beyond imagination - but i think it would be very difficult for them to implement it with the resources and time they have.

[Lauront]

I personally find the face handsome, but maybe that's just me :3

It's not so much that I don't find it handsome, but it's a different type to what I prefer. I still like it very much as a possible representation of them.

I think they'll be on the scale between Elezen and Au Ra. Any more and it would be Roe territory and we just got male Hroth to strengthen that niche. If anything it's more a matter of how wide they'll be rather than pure blocks.

Between au ra and elezen would be ideal.

[zeylos]

I guess that this is the more Omega M type body some ppl want. I gotta say it looks nice ^^

[Crushnight]

edit: what I also found

Completely how i feel but i will wait for response before i do this:

I'm emotional so it could be either way XD

[Lexun]

I think this is a really cool concept.
Personally I would like male viera to be very similar to females, this art would be how I'd like to get them(also the racial gear is super cool on this ):

Idk why people say that want a better face as a gay man he gets my stamp of approval!

Male Viera please and thanks SE

[zeylos]

Idk why people say that want a better face as a gay man he gets my stamp of approval!

Male Viera please and thanks SE

Im also a gay man and I personally love his face. I think its clear we will for sure get male viera, but I'd like them to tell us exactly when

[zeylos]

Also guys don't forget to sign this https://www.change.org/p/square-enix...cking-in-ffxiv.
It helps pressure them to give an official respone ^^

[Ceallach]

As far as real life goes, traditional gender roles are what works best. There is no rational argument against that. Japan understands that. America used to.

But as far as fiction? Worldbuilding is far more important. We know so far that male Viera cannot be distinguished from female Viera until puberty, and the males only visit the females to trade, pick up the adolescent males, and mate. We also know that Viera in general do not leave the Wood unless they're okay with never, ever being allowed to return (this is a callback to FINAL FANTASY XII). It could be that male Viera eschew adventuring because their culture places so much emphasis on staying in the Wood. It could be that they're as rare as male Mithra in FINAL FANTASY XI, and therefore feel that "stay in the Wood" aspect of their culture even more keenly than the women. We don't have much more on lore here.

To say that the genderlock on the Hrothgar and Viera is "homophobic," "disrespectful of the LGBT community," or anything else to that effect is absolute freaking nonsense and must not ever be taken seriously, especially because people these days are offended just as easily by leaves falling off the trees in autumn.

[zeylos]

As far as real life goes, traditional gender roles are what works best. There is no rational argument against that. Japan understands that. America used to.

But as far as fiction? Worldbuilding is far more important. We know so far that male Viera cannot be distinguished from female Viera until puberty, and the males only visit the females to trade, pick up the adolescent males, and mate. We also know that Viera in general do not leave the Wood unless they're okay with never, ever being allowed to return (this is a callback to FINAL FANTASY XII). It could be that male Viera eschew adventuring because their culture places so much emphasis on staying in the Wood. It could be that they're as rare as male Mithra in FINAL FANTASY XI, and therefore feel that "stay in the Wood" aspect of their culture even more keenly than the women. We don't have much more on lore here.

To say that the genderlock on the Hrothgar and Viera is "homophobic," "disrespectful of the LGBT community," or anything else to that effect is absolute freaking nonsense and must not ever be taken seriously, especially because people these days are offended just as easily by leaves falling off the trees in autumn.

No.Traditional gender roles just hurt other people, and they force us to do things we would never do otherwise.
People this days are realizing that stereotypes. Need. To. End

[Halivel]

To say that the genderlock on the Hrothgar and Viera is "homophobic," "disrespectful of the LGBT community," or anything else to that effect is absolute freaking nonsense and must not ever be taken seriously, especially because people these days are offended just as easily by leaves falling off the trees in autumn.

Don't even remember when I heard this argument it this thread last time tbh. @_@ And it was done by very little amount of people anyway (but they were loudest, possibly).