Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[dustyace]

Hello! Just wanted to post something here.
Hhhmmm kinda dissapointed to see "no male viera / female hrothgar" announced. I hope SE will add them at some point in the next expansion (not release date because they have a looot of work polishing the current versions but .. in a future patch maybe). So, reading some post of this thread I came up with two "versions". Personally I like the first one (A), but I don't dislike the other one either. Someone posted the "Male Omega image" and , yep I can imagine them being like that. I'm temped to do another one of the female hrothgar too. Sooo... yep, I would like to see them in-game but, no rush.



Oh, here's a better resolution picture if you want: https://twitter.com/RedSinistra/stat...64814083371010

Nice art. I really like B, A looks nice but the size difference is extreme, I think that might be taller than roegadyns.

[LyraKuroneko]

I like A one, but would prefer way smaller~

[Theodric]

I'd prefer them to be tall and fairly well-built.

[shao32]

Mmm i like more A, but it can have the size of B, meaby something betwen A and B.

[killstein]

awesome art, red-sinistra, really glad to see some height/body comparisons. :') i definitely prefer the physique of A but would like them a head shorter so there isn't an extreme height difference when compared to female viera. +1 for hrothgar version too!

[Theodric]

I'd rather not see Viera men become a lazy copy and paste of Miqo'te. If the only real difference were to be the ears, they might as well not be added at all so that the development time and precious resources can instead be spent adding to the customisation options of the existing playable races.

[Roda]

I'm not a fan of a, especially if that's the height difference. We already have au ra for that drastic Male towering over female trope. And he honestly looks like a cross between a Male au ra and a highlander. TL;DR that design while neat on it's own, when paired with what we have, is boring as h*ck.
B would be spot on perfect for me if he was just a smidge shorter than the female. He looks similar to the female in terms of body and personality aesthetics and doesn't reduce the race down to caricatures of masculinity and femininity, while still being obviously masculine. But in terms of height that would be the depiction of the tallest Male vs the shortest female in my preference. I just hope the males would be on average like a head shorter than the females because it's so much more different than every other race we have at the moment and where better to mix it up than with the matriarchal race of rabbit people, since female rabbits are larger than males?

[Lauront]

I'm not a fan of a, especially if that's the height difference. We already have au ra for that drastic Male towering over female trope. And he honestly looks like a cross between a Male au ra and a highlander. TL;DR that design while neat on it's own, when paired with what we have, is boring as h*ck.
B would be spot on perfect for me if he was just a smidge shorter than the female. He looks similar to the female in terms of body and personality aesthetics and doesn't reduce the race down to caricatures of masculinity and femininity, while still being obviously masculine. But in terms of height that would be the depiction of the tallest Male vs the shortest female in my preference. I just hope the males would be on average like a head shorter than the females because it's so much more different than every other race we have at the moment and where better to mix it up than with the matriarchal race of rabbit people, since female rabbits are larger than males?

Reverse gender dimorphism adds nothing for me. It's "different" in a way that adds nothing.

Viera are not rabbits, they are humanoids with rabbit ears. Being matriarchal is irrelevant to size differences. Honestly, they're just non-arguments for it.

They don't live in seclusion to one another because the women said so, they live in seclusion because it is the will of the forest - and by all accounts, the men seem to devote more of themselves to serving such a cause than the women who live in luxury by comparison to the isolation of the men.

I think it's dumb that there's such a vast difference in height between Xaela/Raen men and women though as far as I'm concerned two wrongs don't make a right and I've rather not see Viera subjected to the opposite scenario.

It pretty much ruined female Au Ra for me.

[Roda]

They're just matriarchal in the sense that the women run the villages. Beyond that, it has no further implications as to their biology. These aren't drow elves.

I didnt intend to give the impression that their social order was based on their height difference or vice versa in universe. THEMING wise however I think is what makes it appropriate for the females to have a more demanding presence than their Male counterparts. (Added onto the biological reason being that female rabbits are larger than the males)

Reverse gender dimorphism adds nothing for me. It's "different" in a way that adds nothing.

Viera are not rabbits, they are humanoids with rabbit ears. Being matriarchal is irrelevant to size differences. Honestly, they're just non-arguments for it.

Ok so 1 just because you dont care doesn't mean something is invalid. (Talk about a non-argument! Jeezums!)
2 I mean they are though? I'm pretty sure those are rabbit ears on their head so they're at least borrowing SOMETHING from rabbit biology. How much can we divorce them from their rabbitness before they're no longer viera? What is the critical mass of rabbit?
3 I did not mean to imply that their societal structure dictated their height differences or their height differences dictated their societal structure IN UNIVERSE. (Though there are a few matriarchal species that do follow that dimorphism, see: hyenas a species that has an almost identical society to viera) But THEMING wise it would make sense to design a female of a matriarchal race to have a more commanding presence over their known-for-not-being-immediately-seen male counterparts. It's a very common trope with the matriarchal society concept. That paired with them already being biologically rabbit themed just makes a smaller, more acrobatic male make more sense to me. It's a two-fer! (Three if you actually feel up to the arduous task of understanding why someone might be excited by SE not doing yet another tol MAN smol girl race.)

[Theodric]

I don't particularly care if the height of the men happens to be taller than the height of the women. I also don't care if they happen to be the same height. That could be a decent compromise.

There's very little depicting the Viera as 'matriarchal' given that the genders live in complete separation outside of occasionally meeting up to breed. That the men are fending for themselves in complete isolation is more of an argument for them to be fairly rugged, if anything.