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  1. #1961
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    They could but there is also lost fantasia income and people who won't buy from the Mogstation due to unhappiness with the decision. It doesn't have to involve ragequits, necessarily. However, you do imply you care as to whether they're added or not by hoping that they stick to their guns and therefore do not add them.
    I will continue playing whether they add them or not. And I seriously doubt that more than a small fraction of the complainers will actually buy a fantasia in the first place. But will I get a good kick out of them calling the bluff of the ragers? Damn straight I will.
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  2. #1962
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I believe the angle Billy is coming at this from - and he can correct me if I err - is to do with a perceived bias against adding decent glamours and appearances catering to male characters. Personally I wouldn't necessarily impute this to sexism, but certainly there is an element of waifu-maker pandering in the game, however I think that's driven more by the fact that a majority of active characters is female - but not really great enough to justify cutting on designs that interest male character players.
    FFXIV is a waifu maker. I will fully admit that and its why I support a more elegant or cute male viera. Rather it be au ra esque viera or an elezen one. I feel that women in this game only have really two options when make 'cute' males and that are the male lowlanders and male miqotes. I suppose that you can put male elezens down but their proportions really put them at a disadvantage here and they come off more handsome. I feel there is a market for female gamers wanting their 'bishonen' character. But like you I would not equate that to sexism. What I took from Billy is that he did not want his decision of unsubbing and feeling that there is sexism involved as a scourge on the thread. I am just saying that its a small issues within THIS thread that I have hardly seen discussed through the almost 200 pages.

    Does it come up? Yes, but not as often as to be the focus because I think the majority is focused on wanting a new option for those who want a cute male character to play as.
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  3. #1963
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Quitting something in the real world is considered a valid form of protest. Why not for the game? (And no I'm not quitting the game btw.)
    I never said they can't quit. I'm simply pointing out the fact that if they're willing to quit over something that has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the gameplay, then they never liked the game to begin with. Unless someone can show me a dungeon, raid, quest, story, gathering or crafting that you could only do if you're a male viera.
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  4. #1964
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    It's a great piece of art, but I'd rather not see a viera with such a thick torso. Omega m's torso is thin. I think Omega m is a good in between for people who wanted a somewhat more muscular viera, and those who wanted a smaller viera. The viera in the picture you're referring to leaves no room for people who want something thinner. -and besides, I already posted the older fanfest concept art where the viera do appear to have some muscle on them.

    However, I do want to point out that I would rather see male viera in whatever form than no viera at all.


    Can't wait to see.
    I'm sorry Senn, but you created this thread and you have the responsibility to be neutral about feedback, right now the OP seems one sided, please, reconsider adding the art like you did with the ones you liked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    For the sake of being neutral, I'll begrudgingly do it.
    The picture is way too big. Anyone have it in a smaller size?
    Thanks, this is a big step for this thread, a way to show we are being civil about the matter.
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    Last edited by Renik; 03-31-2019 at 08:43 AM.

  5. #1965
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
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    Most of the posts in this thread, so far, have been people coming in here and +1ing to show their support.

    Also, completely off topic, but the NA forums would have a heart attack if they were to see what some of the japanese players are talking about right now in their male viera/female hrothgar thread.
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  6. #1966
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    I'm sorry Senn, but you created this thread and you have the responsibility to be neutral about feedback, right now the OP seems one sided, please, reconsider adding the art like you did with the ones you liked.
    For the sake of being neutral, I'll begrudgingly do it.
    The picture is way too big. Anyone have it in a smaller size?
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  7. #1967
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post

    Also, completely off topic, but the NA forums would have a heart attack if they were to see what some of the japanese players are talking about right now in their male viera/female hrothgar thread.
    Sir, you cannot say this and not share! I think knowing what the Japanese base is talking about can only open up more discussion about male Viera.
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  8. #1968
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    I couldn't help myself. Sorry. D:

    EDIT: Also, while i was drawing this, i realized how much the face looks like a certain anime character. That was not planned, but i am glad it happened. xD

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  9. #1969
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Sir, you cannot say this and not share! I think knowing what the Japanese base is talking about can only open up more discussion about male Viera.
    Not a good kind of discussion LOL
    Here is what they posted
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  10. #1970
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
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    omg please no

    edit:
    if you drew that, well done
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    Last edited by Senn; 03-31-2019 at 08:52 AM.

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