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    Laurent Vestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I believe the angle Billy is coming at this from - and he can correct me if I err - is to do with a perceived bias against adding decent glamours and appearances catering to male characters. Personally I wouldn't necessarily impute this to sexism, but certainly there is an element of waifu-maker pandering in the game, however I think that's driven more by the fact that a majority of active characters is female - but not really great enough to justify cutting on designs that interest male character players.
    FFXIV is a waifu maker. I will fully admit that and its why I support a more elegant or cute male viera. Rather it be au ra esque viera or an elezen one. I feel that women in this game only have really two options when make 'cute' males and that are the male lowlanders and male miqotes. I suppose that you can put male elezens down but their proportions really put them at a disadvantage here and they come off more handsome. I feel there is a market for female gamers wanting their 'bishonen' character. But like you I would not equate that to sexism. What I took from Billy is that he did not want his decision of unsubbing and feeling that there is sexism involved as a scourge on the thread. I am just saying that its a small issues within THIS thread that I have hardly seen discussed through the almost 200 pages.

    Does it come up? Yes, but not as often as to be the focus because I think the majority is focused on wanting a new option for those who want a cute male character to play as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
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    Most of the posts in this thread, so far, have been people coming in here and +1ing to show their support.

    Also, completely off topic, but the NA forums would have a heart attack if they were to see what some of the japanese players are talking about right now in their male viera/female hrothgar thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post

    Also, completely off topic, but the NA forums would have a heart attack if they were to see what some of the japanese players are talking about right now in their male viera/female hrothgar thread.
    Sir, you cannot say this and not share! I think knowing what the Japanese base is talking about can only open up more discussion about male Viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Sir, you cannot say this and not share! I think knowing what the Japanese base is talking about can only open up more discussion about male Viera.
    Not a good kind of discussion LOL
    Here is what they posted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Not a good kind of discussion LOL[
    Here is what they posted
    lmao

    Yeah, no thanks.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 03-31-2019 at 08:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Not a good kind of discussion LOL
    Here is what they posted
    But its so adorable!! How could I ever hate that?!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acesfool View Post
    I never said they can't quit. I'm simply pointing out the fact that if they're willing to quit over something that has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the gameplay, then they never liked the game to begin with. Unless someone can show me a dungeon, raid, quest, story, gathering or crafting that you could only do if you're a male viera.
    Remember everyone, you can only like and care about One Thing™ at a time! And if you change your mind about liking that One Thing™ for a reason that doesn't effect EVERY SINGLE ASPECT about that One Thing™, you never liked it anyway! What you were feeling, that joy, those friends you made, the relaxation of a long day and logging on, was all a lie!! FAKE EVEN! FAKERS!

    /ahem

    Last time I'm reaching under the bridge and paying the troll toll, I promise.


    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Not a good kind of discussion LOL
    Here is what they posted
    /SIGH and SHUDDER/ I know everyone on the forums over there don't share the same opinions; but I so desperately wish shota and lolicon weren't so creepily and deeply seeded in what I personally see/run in to of the culture.
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    Last edited by VyelChuChu; 03-31-2019 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VyelChuChu View Post
    Remember everyone, you can only like and care about One Thing™ at a time! And if you change your mind about liking that One Thing™ for a reason that doesn't effect EVERY SINGLE ASPECT about that One Thing™, you never liked it anyway! What you were feeling, that joy, those friends you made, the relaxation of a long day and logging on, was all a lie!! FAKE EVEN! FAKERS!
    Because none of that is possible without male viera, right?
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    Liokki Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by VyelChuChu View Post
    Remember everyone, you can only like and care about One Thing™ at a time! And if you change your mind about liking that One Thing™ for a reason that doesn't effect EVERY SINGLE ASPECT about that One Thing™, you never liked it anyway! What you were feeling, that joy, those friends you made, the relaxation of a long day and logging on, was all a lie!! FAKE EVEN! FAKERS!

    /ahem

    Last time I'm reaching under the bridge and paying the troll toll, I promise.
    I mean, at this point, it literally looks likes he protesting..... something, I guess, for the sake of protesting. All I know is the more he posts the less sense he makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake200135 View Post
    I mean, at this point, it literally looks likes he protesting..... something, I guess, for the sake of protesting. All I know is the more he posts the less sense he makes.
    Probably just looking for attention since most of the "We support genderlock, these people are whiners" threads aren't as active, since I imagine many reasonable people who disagree with the response to male viera have said their piece and moved on to actually discussing things about the game. Rather than dedicating time to attempting to agitate people.

    But a troll's a troll's a troll's a troll.

    In other news I'm enjoying the art being posted, also don't forget if you can to support the change.org. 4K and still going.
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