Reasons for Ban

[Doozer]

If you're talking about extremists, you'll need to specify that, because I don't think "SJW" carries that connotation to a lot of people.

Exactly this. I was there when SJW started getting used, and it definitely started and has continued to be a dismissive knee-jerk term to label someone as overreacting or emotional. If I had a dollar for every time people raved about SJWs because a game developer decided to have a female protagonist in their game, well, I'd be able to buy all those games. Extremists come in all flavors, and it's interesting to me that there isn't a widely used term for the same kind of extremists that are in opposition of SJWs. Funny how that is, isn't it.

For the record. The fact that we can have this conversation without accusing each other of stuff and without serious walking on eggshells to me says you wouldn't be an SJW in my book.

The fact that people can be considered an SJW based on different things and opinions proves to me that it's entirely subjective whether someone is an SJW or not. Sorry, but I'm nonbinary (specifically genderqueer), gay, and a whole bunch of other things that would instantly get me labeled an SJW by like 70% of people. There's no point in fighting it at this point. But I'm no 'extremist', so until the term gets a concrete definition, it's pretty useless. However, it's very easy to spot people who probably go around being verbally abrasive in an online game if they go around complaining about SJWs, though.

I had a longer response typed but the page ate it when I tried to quote a second person. :c

[Jaywalker]

The fact that people can be considered an SJW based on different things and opinions proves to me that it's entirely subjective whether someone is an SJW or not. Sorry, but I'm nonbinary (specifically genderqueer), gay, and a whole bunch of other things that would instantly get me labeled an SJW by like 70% of people. There's no point in fighting it at this point. But I'm no 'extremist', so until the term gets a concrete definition, it's pretty useless. However, it's very easy to spot people who probably go around being verbally abrasive in an online game if they go around complaining about SJWs, though.

I had a longer response typed but the page ate it when I tried to quote a second person. :c

No worries! And yeah I get you on this stuff. It's a pretty messy situation and imo more clarity would be better, but with people in general folks are still trying to figure out how to categorize and communicate these things. That plus there's some social reluctance to admit that sort of extremist is possible. So for the time being we have a lot of use with the too-vague slang and are left to puzzle out what the connotation is there. It's a shame because I think that feeds a divide between folks like you and people in my camp where there's no issue with normal activism or diversity, but the extremism has been causing hell. Sometimes the people I've found who get really angry and upset about far-left discrimination will drop insults like soy-boy for example... while ranting and raging because the far-left was really dehumanizing against their best friend, who is black. I've also seen people do stuff like what Gula described who were just obnoxious and bothering people needlessly. It's a really weird situation, and the way I've been trying to navigate at least is just case-by-case.

I can tell you there's a term for people who are doing the stuff like what Gula described, but it's just as (if not more) useless. "Anti-SJW" usually gets used in my experience, and I actually had some confusion for a bit because for a while I thought it just referred to not liking the extremist stuff. Turns out it's more for petulant people who just don't want anyone else to have nice things.

With OP's situation, that's why I think it's important to still hear 'em out. Sometimes people speak in ways that are more abrasive or less, but there can be any number of reasons and being fair is important I figure.

[Doozer]

I can tell you there's a term for people who are doing the stuff like what Gula described, but it's just as (if not more) useless. "Anti-SJW" usually gets used in my experience, and I actually had some confusion for a bit because for a while I thought it just referred to not liking the extremist stuff. Turns out it's more for petulant people who just don't want anyone else to have nice things.

Yes I'm familiar with "anti-SJW", though it's not very widely used, hence what I said. It's funny though, because it initially started as 'anti-SJ' to -- I guess -- oppose the changes that 'SJWs' want, but then it evolved to be 'anti-SJW' to oppose the people themselves. It's easy to see how off the mark they are with 'SJW cringe' videos, because they just pick the ones previously mentioned, the loudest and most extreme ones. You'd never find someone like me in there; not because I'm not an 'SJW', but because I don't fit the narrative of the most cringey and embarrassing actions that they want to showcase as representative of the entire belief system. It's hard for people to accept that entire groups aren't a monolith or hivemind, and have their own morals and ways of communicating and taking action.

But as a piece of advice to OP: If you must openly disagree with someone, consider the language you use. Maybe it's because I'm Canadian, but I always say please and other pleasantries when I'm asking for someone to do something differently. Or if I get spammed with a macro or something I'm like, "Can you not do that, please?" and if they got mad and reported me for disagreeing with them, the GM would clearly see I was being polite. It's very important to consider how you speak to others. People might say that's walking on eggshells or people are too sensitive, but there's literally zero reason to be abrasive or rude. Even if you're irritated, lashing out won't fix the problem. And you don't have to show everyone how mad you are when you interact with them. Something about if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. When it comes to general interactions with people, I feel like it's important to consider that.