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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That's the key of it. I know there was a recent Q&A posted which went something like:
    What that person said is literally that there is no reason for the floating while barefoot to even be a problem. Cause there is not. They are doing the reverse and there's no problem (making higher heels and condensing legs). They can do stretch the legs that little bit as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The bust slider definitely does affect clothing. You can see it on the character creator screen if you equip job gear on a character and then return to the customisation stage.
    Seeing how my character goes from completely flat to pretty well endowed depending on clothes, I'm willing to say that if there is some change, it is either restricted to some of the more high-profile sets or is not nearly as significant to make it possible by stretching without dropping the quality of the textures too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    What that person said is literally that there is no reason for the floating while barefoot to even be a problem. Cause there is not. They are doing the reverse and there's no problem (making higher heels and condensing legs). They can do stretch the legs that little bit as well.
    Adjusting leg length for high-heeled shoe models weirds me out a bit.

    Still wondering what they're going to do with Viera, because if those near-vertical high heels get overwritten with normal shoes, that's going to look quite odd.



    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Seeing how my character goes from completely flat to pretty well endowed depending on clothes, I'm willing to say that if there is some change, it is either restricted to some of the more high-profile sets or is not nearly as significant to make it possible by stretching without dropping the quality of the textures too much.
    That's a different issue, I think - inconsistent body proportions across different gear models.

    It's harder to compare how the same gear looks with different slider settings, since of course you can't easily adjust your character to see the effect - but it definitely makes a difference. It can definitely be quite noticable on NPCs if they're using gear that I'm used to seeing on my character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Adjusting leg length for high-heeled shoe models weirds me out a bit.

    Still wondering what they're going to do with Viera, because if those near-vertical high heels get overwritten with normal shoes, that's going to look quite odd.
    It is weird if you spend any time looking at it. I realized what my character is wearing now does it. (lvl 60 summoner quest set) the foot is flattened but the leg is definitely shortened. Devs probably expect that most players aren't going to look too closely or spend a lot of time switching to see the difference. I said most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Still wondering what they're going to do with Viera, because if those near-vertical high heels get overwritten with normal shoes, that's going to look quite odd.
    Technically speaking...they can just do...nothing...Viera are digitigrade, but that only means that they tend to walk with their entire balance on the elongated (compared to humans) toes. Other than the distances between the joints, there's really not much biological differences.And seeing as the Viera's have only slightly longer feet than humans, if they stood on them flat (possible in the same way that humans can stand on their toes alone)...you wouldn't see much of a difference.

    Their biology as far as lore goes actually allows flat locomotion. Look here and here. Then there's this one that does have heightened heels...but not significantly.

    In reality, rabbits probably could walk on flat feet too. They can certainly stand on flat feet. However, their legs are made for jumping, and even humans jump off of their toes. Viera on the other hand have legs made for walking, not hopping. There is no problem with them walking in the same shoes as humans do. It's just something that I reckon Viera wanting to avoid since the advantages of their feet, faster and quieter movement and better jumping ability, are compromised. Rather, are limited to what they are for humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Technically speaking...they can just do...nothing...Viera are digitigrade, but that only means that they tend to walk with their entire balance on the elongated (compared to humans) toes. Other than the distances between the joints, there's really not much biological differences.And seeing as the Viera's have only slightly longer feet than humans, if they stood on them flat (possible in the same way that humans can stand on their toes alone)...you wouldn't see much of a difference.
    I realise that Viera probably *can* walk flat-footed, but my issue is with the game models and what that's going to do to the apparent proportions of their legs. It's already a bit odd when heeled shoes change characters' leg length by maybe two inches; Viera would be more like 4-6 inches, and most likely proportioned so they look 'right' when wearing their default high heels. Change that to flat feet, and their legs get that much longer.
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