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    Quote Originally Posted by Kradus View Post
    Strawmanning everyone you disagree with by pinning the weakest arguments of other people that you disagree with on them is not a rational way to go about things, either. People are allowed to give feedback on products that they are paying for. No amount of desperate flailing on your part will stop this, and the multimillion dollar corporation does not need you to shield them from criticism. If they decide it's something worth making, they'll do it. If they decide it's not worth it, they won't do it. That's all it comes down to, and part of deciding whether it's worth it for them in the long run is players making what they want heard.
    It seems like you're projecting if anything else. Explain how I'm "strawmanning," when this is what I'm seeing in the forums? And there's nothing about my language that's "flailing." And for big bad "multimillion dollar corporation," you had no problem subbing to them, up to this point

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    It was the solution they thought was best. It being the best solution they could reach is something else and many in the playerbase do not agree that it is.



    Knowingly walking into a situation where you offer rugged, muscular, beastly men alongside lithe, beautiful bunny girls is sexist whether they intended it that way or not. The flip side of that is that they decided against adding beastly women and lithe bunny boys - two things that break what you usually see.
    Devs stalling for literally years on unlocking the bunny outfit because it made their male developers feel uncomfortable so it had to be delegated to their female devs is a bunch of bad things there too. And it's not unrelated to this case because guess what - bunny boys. Yoshida saying male Viera would be weird (if indeed he meant it aesthetics wise and not "we never saw them before so suddenly having them would be weird") while adding female Viera into the game is problematic.

    Say what you will, the amalgamation of all those things just looks bad.
    I'd like to see where it was explicit that the team were uncomfortable about the male bunny suit. And even then, what's the point in this argument? Just because you don't like their options or if you perceive it as being traditionally masculine or feminist doesn't make it sexist. Neither race is being treated better than the other.
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    Last edited by REPROBEAN_CHILD; 03-30-2019 at 05:49 AM.