Viera males should be smaller like Au Ra females

[Lacan]

Hm, it's almost like sexualizing children in any form is wrong.

How that's a hot take is a real mystery.

It isn't, but try and convince Japan that. :v

[TaiyoShikasu]

It isn't, but try and convince Japan that. :v

Going by this and related threads, it indeed is controversial.

[Greven]

Well, no matter what reasons could added for this or that type of viera devs will not necessarily follow those.

Shorter then female is pretty okay but having them looking like kids while they are supposed to mate with in game female viera seems a bit hard to digest.

I personally dislike a lot the sexual dimorphism of au ra, I'd prefer they made one of the 2 clans taller and the other smaller if something.
About male viera my preference would go for tall athletic bodies without being bulky and I see it fitting with the descriptions of what kind of life male vieras experience.

[wereotter]

Took another look at Fran while playing last night.... not counting her ears, she's only about as tall as a midlander male, which made me think, the shorter-average athletic build male isn't really a thing in the game as-is. You have the muscle slider on the midlander, but even set to max, they still look pretty twink. I think they could fill a missing role of build to have the max height of the male midlander (to satisfy those who don't want them crazy short) with a min height of the miquote or au ra female (for those who do want them shorter) with the muscle slider giving more definition than it currently does for the midlanders.

You can't really do a tall version of men and a short version because that basically is the same work for modeling armor as creating two entirely different races, and that work is the reason they didn't make male viera in the first place. If they ask for player feedback, they're likely to go with some middle ground, or make up their own concept of what they think it should be independent of our opinions.

[Floortank]

Female au ra are at odds with female au ra lore.

*Opens Encyclopedia Eorzea, flips to pages 90 and 91, reads* ...No, they're not.

[xbahax92]

Saying "we want shotas or lolis" is indeed not a good look, so.

I admit, was my fault for actually not wording things right here. I guess people saying they want small, young and basically underaged Viera (like alphinaud) started this whole subject. And it indeed is weird that even people bring up sexual subjects in these terms whenever people want small or feminine males. I guess this is sort of sexism as well?

Edit: to be fair, when I hear shota-loli I do not think of paedophile, but rather the genre they appear in the japanese popculture. Either way, got nothing more to add here.

[Eloah]

Saying "we want shotas or lolis" is indeed not a good look, so.

This is partly the reason female lalas sometimes scare me. If done "wrong" you can turn them into major lolis. Thankfully, those cases are few and far between. Males are a little easier to work with, they either look like cute young boys, or cute old men. Females however have a finer line. But all this aside. I would like another shorter race option. I'd like to have knees again, lol.

[username1234]

Female au ra that look younger than Alisaie: Perfectly ok
Male viera that look like Alphinaud: Moral crisis

Get over yourselves. If Alphinaud looked exactly the same but was introduced as 18 you wouldn't think twice about it.

[Wolfyboy]

Well, to spread this around, in case it hasn't already.

Oho..hohoho. There we got an answer.

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/fin...r-trust-system

Yoshida: With FF12, there are only female Viera appearing in the game. Due to that, we have no design references for the male versions. If we did create a male design for the Viera, he would be quite elegant, handsome, and slim. He would look more like the Elezen race, but with bunny ears.

[stormygabe]

Female au ra that look younger than Alisaie: Perfectly ok
Male viera that look like Alphinaud: Moral crisis

Get over yourselves. If Alphinaud looked exactly the same but was introduced as 18 you wouldn't think twice about it.

I think this is a point people forget. Also, isn't it a thing in a lot of eastern animated media where you'd have a guy who was like 20 or 30 something but drawn looking like he was 16? (Think Captain Levi.) And also, aren't there irl dudes who look younger? (I'm going on 27 and still get carded. I have a friend who's 30 and also still gets carded. Another guy I used to work with was also pushing 30 and legit looked like a kid.)