Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[oiyum]

That's a stretch and a reach if I've ever seen one. Come on now.

people were looking for an explanation, and i gave you one. its your judgement on whether youre going to believe it or not.

i personally doubt that not adding male viera was purposefully because yoshida hates the gays, but you also have to understand that this is one of very, very few mmos that was accepting of lgbt people. having male viera (the archetype twink, and one that doesnt look weirdly proportioned like the male miqote) be dangled before us and then taken away made a lot of gay people feel like FFXIV isnt as accepting of us as it seemed to be.

again, i dont want to force you to believe that the backlash is justified, or that male viera is such a huge deal, only to understand how the LGBT community (at least the part i am in) percieves these news.

[Atreyu]

All this is only happening because YoshiP said he finds bunny men "weird".

Yoshi's statement a few years ago, so far as I can tell, was related to lore. Assuming otherwise, especially when he is not a native English speaker, is jumping the gun and trying to pursue a narrative that isn't there. Men can marry men in this game, for god's sake.

I mean it took like how many years to get the bunny suit for male races? And in the end the female designers just created that cause the male dev team felt uncomfortable.

Citation needed.

[Momolue]

I'm in support of Male Viera being playable!
Them having stature similar to Alphinaud's would be a very refreshing change of pace.

Please consider doing away with the genderlock on both of the new races! i appreciate your hard work and i'm looking forward to Shadowbringers! ^^

[Indefiinable]

Sorry forgot to cardit Cairdeas for the original 2011 post

[VillainQueen]

i said generally. also, bishounen and ikemen are barely ever sexualized, theyre idealized prettyboys. if viera males were to follow the same design archetypes as the women, they would be scantily clad and sexualized, which makes straight men much more uncomfortable than bishounen do.

No, no they are. You really should take a look to the adult oriented side of the otome community. Oh boy they are. But anyway your argument is based on how they might look like, even though no one really knows how they would look like. And that is no conversation that has to occur till we actually see them.

[Atreyu]

Snip.

You know nothing of how I feel about the male Viera not being included. Trust me, I know all too well that this game is very LGBT friendly. It's one of the many reasons that I love it.
This argument about who likes who, who is attracted to whom, and all these other wild generalizations are doing nobody any good. In fact, it hurts our argument.

Sincerely, a gay ftm who was looking forward to male Viera, too.

[Rejecteddemo]

I have been hoping for male viera for years now. I won't stop fighting for it. Please listen to the player base SE.

[Lacan]

I think regardless of all this, Yoshi respects the LGBT. That's why he personally okayed that float for the LGBT parade. He knows we have fantasia money too since we're don't spend it all on our screaming kids. :v He probably thought he was giving the gays what they wanted with the Hrothgar, and he was right about that to an extent, but he didn't account for all the gays who wanted male Viera too.


Give him time, I think he'll fix this eventually. Let's not come for his wig...

… yet.

[Benjegg]

100% would love to see the addition of Male Viera, big fan of extra customisation options at all times. No reason to have male Mi'qote if we can't have male Viera also!

[Aosha]

Here to show support.
I'm not really even considering playing either new race myself, but I'm still rather disappointed with the genderlock. The genderlocking feels artificially and unnecessarily restrictive. The two missing race/gender combinations could be used to fill missing character creation niches, and I can't recall "more customization" ever being considered a bad thing on any reasonable basis. On that note, I still haven't heard any actually convincing arguments as to why they shouldn't be included.

Now, I do understand that at this point in development, asking for them to be added for 5.0 is unreasonable. However, it should not be unreasonable to ask for the other genders to be added sometime in the future. In 5.3, 5.4,... heck, 6.0. Even if the addition is delayed by a year or two, just knowing that it would be coming eventually is better than "no not happening."

Also, I would like to add, that this looks like it would be a good business move. While yes, it will take some development time, I know some people are actively unsubbing from the game because of this. Whereas the addition should definitely earn a decent amount from fantasia sales, and earn back most if not all of those subscriptions, and probably new ones as well. And I seriously doubt that their addition would generate any notable backlash. If any were to happen, it would definitely be much more minor than this.