So, realistically and logically....

[VillainQueen]

I'm not whiteknighting. I'm just calling you out on being ridiculous like always. You're literally saying you don't respect matsuno while saying you're unsubbing because you aren't getting a gender of a race he invented. Like do you not see how bad you look?

But Matsuno already said he wasn't against male Viera

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

But Matsuno already said he wasn't against male Viera

But that doesn't mean he's actually going to make them. Lots of people love Roegadyns, but they will never fantasia into one themselves.

[Imuka]

Here come my two cents:
If you don't have the ressources to make everything great focus on a few things and make them great, instead of doing multiple things that are half assed at the end.

[Lilseph]

But Matsuno already said he wasn't against male Viera

As far as I know, he said he had nothing to do with this decision. Not that he was against them, not that he would support people wanting them. He just distanced himself from that acussation.

[Dhanauranji]

People online pretty much helped on male Viera designs if they were lacking the "soul" to design them, really. They just didn't give a shit (and I think that's what stings for most people who are against genderlocking, myself included).

As far as I see it, if females get g-string tangas, males should get 'em too. Bunny suits, although belated, were a right step towards that end... and now, they shot themselves in the foot doing something that they said would not do.

[cicatriz313]

People online pretty much helped on male Viera designs if they were lacking the "soul" to design them, really. They just didn't give a shit (and I think that's what stings for most people who are against genderlocking, myself included).

As far as I see it, if females get g-string tangas, males should get 'em too. Bunny suits, although belated, were a right step towards that end... and now, they shot themselves in the foot doing something that they said would not do.

Source on them saying they wouldn't genderlock?

[Dhanauranji]

Source on them saying they wouldn't genderlock?

I reckon I don't have a source other than what I recall of 1.0 when they genderlocked Roes, Highlanders and Mi'qotes (there were no Roefemmes, no Thighlanders and no male kitties, yet they fixed that). I recall someone in the forums saying Yoshida even disregarded how lore worked to give us that and that he was against the lock in the first place, so the new "reasoning" being lore again is kind of bullshit.

Also, they say they don't have the resources yet there are "people" in some "places" who do models of stuff for the game and for free. Hire THEM, I say.

[cicatriz313]

I reckon I don't have a source other than what I recall of 1.0 when they genderlocked Roes, Highlanders and Mi'qotes (there were no Roefemmes, no Thighlanders and no male kitties, yet they fixed that). I recall someone in the forums saying Yoshida even disregarded how lore worked to give us that and that he was against the lock in the first place, so the new "reasoning" being lore again is kind of bullshit.

Also, they say they don't have the resources yet there are "people" in some "places" who do models of stuff for the game and for free. Hire THEM, I say.

Yeah, seems no one who is saying that can actually source it... interesting.

[Bright-Flower]

ok but ronso in ffx had females. why is it that only viera are above tampering with?

This. TONS of Ivalice lore got shuffled around or changed in the FFXIV version. I really don't see why male viera are the one sacred cow of Ivalice that dare not be touched upon or altered in FF XIV.

Also borrowing this from another thread:


https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/

Q: When did you decide to implement the female-only Viera and male-only Hrothgar?

A: It was during Return to Ivalice, around 3 months after 4.0. Viera was confirmed then, and Hrothgar came about at the same time when we were discussing plans with Matsuno-san. We were deciding whether to make a Hrothgar female or a Viera female, and after selecting Viera, work began right away, because otherwise we wouldn't make it in time. As mentioned before, the face parts are special and Hrothgar has big differences between its faces, like a lion face, wolf face, leopard face. It became a fixed model relatively recently. Viera was done right before Paris Fan Fest, and Hrothgar was done recently.

[Ilan]

Oh, the irony. What claim do you have to tell someone else what they think is homophobic or sexist, by your own logic?

Or, instead, are you really just saying "this isn't homophobic or sexist because I said so"? Yes, I think that's what's going on here.

How about you go and look up the definition of homophobic and sexist? After that you can come back and we can talk again. Not implementing something i not sexist or homophobic just because someone feels offended by that.