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    We are going to the greatwood. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Male Viera as enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KylePearlsand View Post
    We are going to the greatwood. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Male Viera as enemies.
    Well they do have concept art for Viera men so its all but sure they will be in the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueX View Post
    Well they do have concept art for Viera men so its all but sure they will be in the game
    They also made very sure to emphasize in the keynote that only playable Viera would be Female (and vice-versa for Hrothgar), so that emphasis points even more strongly that we will probably see them at some point.

    That said, I feel like if they show male Viera/female Hrothgar too much, it'll just increase the pressure even more. The more emphasis they put on them, the more I'd take it as a sign that they plan to work on the opposing genders eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PogueX View Post
    Well they do have concept art for Viera men so its all but sure they will be in the game
    That's really old concept art for a form of Viera that never came to be. It's not from the same development cycle, and likely didn't even factor into this version of viera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    That's really old concept art for a form of Viera that never came to be. It's not from the same development cycle, and likely didn't even factor into this version of viera
    Given that the city, Crystarium was based off a Tech Demo, don't discount "old" as not factoring in for concept artwork. Also it seems don't understand what "concept art" is on both sides of the argument.

    This is more polished and shown off stuff in the guise of "concept art" A majority of concepts never see the light of day due to NDA,MNDA and possible copyright issues among various other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Given that the city, Crystarium was based off a Tech Demo, don't discount "old" as not factoring in for concept artwork. Also it seems don't understand what "concept art" is on both sides of the argument.

    This is more polished and shown off stuff in the guise of "concept art" A majority of concepts never see the light of day due to NDA,MNDA and possible copyright issues among various other things.
    Heavily sketchy concept sketches isn't "polished" if it was the models would be cleaner looking then they are.
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    You clearly don't know what cycles mean in game development terms then. This art work was done up before Heavenward came out, which was three years ago. That's an eternity in games management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    Heavily sketchy concept sketches isn't "polished" if it was the models would be cleaner looking then they are.
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    You clearly don't know what cycles mean in game development terms then. This art work was done up before Heavenward came out, which was three years ago. That's an eternity in games management.
    Completely ignoring the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVhEvarOkdQtech demo that was now used as a city in the next Xpac. A tech demo from 2005

    Not necessarily an eternity and as I just said, this stuff was polished enough TO be shown, that's my entire point. It's not exactly "concept art" 3D models don't matter at this point since it's not shown for various other reasons. They cited time as a factor for the release of a half race.

    Not to mention saying 3 years is an eternity is silly since FFXV was saying they needed more time and ONLY had 3 years of dev, when they wanted more time, but due to various other factors such as not having the work done completely, changing of direction ideas, and then also translating (redoing the game for a new console) also took away that time.

    I'm saying that people running behind either camp trying to use it as an excuse is just that, an excuse. We aren't all behind the closed doors of dev and can only go by what they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Completely ignoring the 1.0 tech demo that was now used as a city in the next Xpac.
    A tech demo is not a fully fleshed out anything. It's just there to do as the name says. If it ends up being used, great! But there's a lot of concept trailers that go literally nowhere. The point is to show off, not be a "Confirmed!" kind of thing. Remember that awesome game Agni's Philosophy? Of course you don't because it's just a tech demo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU
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