Why FFXIV is The Best

[Shurrikhan]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before.

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

[Zsolen]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Because at least they have adventurers and nomads.

[strawberrycake11]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Ignore them. They're just trolling at this point. Keep saying "lore! lore! lore!" and ignoring any and all points brought up against them.

[Zsolen]

I can't answer every post directly, since there are a lot of replies, but everyone keeps saying the same thing anyway. That is that the lore doesn't matter, which means the story does not matter. However, people play FF for the story. If that story keeps changing for silly reasons, then it loses its appeal. I'm not sure why others do not undersrand why continuing down such a path is a problem.

[Chained_Icarus]

I'm disappointed because I expected more.

This. You summed it up great.

[Ibuki-]

Why is there a need for so much debate over gender locked races? It's a fantasy game, heck the game could even create 72 genders and it would still not be enough. Please take it easy everyone.

[Dualgunner]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Sidurgu brought up how there were several Auri refugees, and his clan got butchered by the Ishgardians; this was in DRK questline on HW launch. It's feasible to think other Auri clans wound up in other nooks of Eorzea.

[Kalise]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before.

Oh, because of course Eorzea has been completely overrun with Female Viera and Male Hrothgar forever right?

Not just, literally no-one in the Shroud, La Noscea, Thanalan or even Ishgard ever seeing hide nor hair of either of those two races... Until now.

It's literally not that big of a stretch for Male Viera to exist, outside of some stubborn reasoning of "No-one has seent them lul" which also implies that contrary to literally every other race in existence both in game and in real life, that every single Male Viera just blindly accepts their role in society.

Another player character's race is does not change from another player's perspective.

Yes, but if other players are cause for you to have issues with lore, then you're playing the wrong genre of game.

This is an MMO, meaning that people will often do things that are contrary to lore. Such as playing a bunch of "Rare" races like Male Miqo'te. Playing characters that are from rare tribes/clans. Playing literally one of a kind never ever seen before except the WoL because they're magical and special jobs.

Or even just using non-immersive names. There's a character on my server called Panty Inspector for example.

With an MMO setting, you have to take things with a grain of salt where other players are concerned. Since, the main thing about an MMO is that you create your own character. Which means everyone is playing as that one in a million special snowflake.

Lore adds immersion. Removing it destroys immersion.

This isn't even a case of removing lore.

This is a case of adding to it.

Or are you going to next complain about how taking over Baelsar's Wall and then leading the Resistance to retake Ala Mhigo is "Removing" the lore surrounding how Ala Mhigan's had been kicked out of their home and cannot return and thus "Destroying" immersion?

Here is a real question. Why is is so important that this gender of this race be introduced as a pc?

Because MMO's are about creating your own character. Even more so in FFXIV where your character is also a literal special snowflake that is given no backstory for the sole purpose of you headcanoning your own.

Plenty of people would be thrilled to write their own fiction about how their Male Viera came to leave the forest and their society and end up arriving in Eorzea as a common adventurer turning into the Warrior of Light.

To say nothing about the extra customization that an additional gender option would provide (To say nothing about couples in real life who would like to have a Viera couple in game, which could come with their own lore that they both decided to run away from the forest because they fell in love with each other)

but they still won't fit lore.

Only if the lore doesn't evolve. Making it unique among all the lore in the game wherein it and it alone must remain static and never change.

[LunaP]

I personally love the game, been playing since early 2014 as I was invited in by a friend that ultimately quit, however I gotta say over the years its been noted that specific individuals/groups of people in the community ( nature/gender/roles w/e defining words to be used don't matter ) have been having an alarming increase on how they react to things and in a seriously disturbing fast manner.

I wanna say I have no issue (which shouldn't matter to anyone ) with people voicing their opinions/concerns. but when people try to enforce things through bullying/racist/hate/shaming via assumptions without getting a full picture view or even attempting to discuss it it just looks bad, especially for SOME groups whe people try to "speak for everyone in X range" it just brings more chaos and salt, and people just seem to refuse to bring open points and views on things, and I'm not talking baout people stating they're unsubbing as many have stated if the game no longer appeals to u then theres no need to force yourself to spend money on it.

That said there are still great feedback threads , just the major issue is when people attempt to derail them with rage and contempt things spiral out and it just becomes an argument of semantics because X side cannot keep an open mind to the discussion.

My biggest gripe is the DC split but aside form the game I have a ton of friends that keep me coming back to play , draw, animate etc.There's to much to do honestly, and I'm definitely looking forward to 5.0 I just wish people could at least try to be civil like the older days when people would simply break things down, voice it, present their side and give some good information, its things like this that make me worry that the chaos that goes on here is partly why NA gets less and less attention because the hate spam just cycles threads out of control making it SERIOUSLY tough for admins to cycle through and prune actual information to get feedback.

I love this game to death but I'm really worried about how fast people are escalating things out of context. Again this isn't focused at everyone, just those that are taking it extremely out of context and logic.

[Zsolen]

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It's a lot easier to add lore to something about a species with little lore concerning its whereabouts than one whose lore is focused on how exclusive they are. I'm not excusing what SE is doing with other races. Male viera would be worse than any other addition lorewise. I've played MMOs for a long time and started when they were text based. I know how they work. SE painted itself into a corner with races in general, but the male viera clearly are meant to be off limits via lore.