Why FFXIV is The Best

[Zsolen]

People have seen them but not male viera. Male viera (anywhere) are almost mythical to anyone not a female viera. Similar lore existed prior to FFXIV, and that aspect is being continued. If anything, female hrothgar are being screwed over. Male viera were not even in the cards.

[Kalise]

People have seen them but not male viera. Male viera (anywhere) are almost mythical to anyone not a female viera. Similar lore existed prior to FFXIV, and that aspect is being continued. If anything, female hrothgar are being screwed over. Male viera were not even in the cards.

"Until now"

There we go. That's all the lore fixed. Just slap literally 2 words to the end of "People have never seen Male Viera" and you now have 100% lore accurate inclusion of Male Viera. That's literally how easy it is to write the lore to fit whatever idea is being justified.

To say nothing of the fact that, maybe there are parts of the world that have tribes of Viera where Males do go adventuring? What if there's a Tribe that has a unique Patriarchal society where it's the Females that are scarcely seen?

It's not like we've actually gone around the entirety of The Source to find out that literally no Male Viera has ever, in all of history, decided to rebel against their society.

Gender locks in other MMO's have lore that backs up their gender lock in a definitive way. Usually in the form of the species being asexual so they're neither male nor female despite their appearance.

With Male Viera, there is no definitive lore. They exist. They aren't horribly crippled. They aren't literally kept in a cage from birth. They don't have some weird defect that makes them unable to live outside of a specific area. No, it's merely "In their society, they're loners whom hide from/kill outsiders that happen across their homes"

Societal rules are inherently non definitive. As evidenced by literally every other race in the game (Including Beast Tribes) having examples of individuals that go against their race's societal norms. Heck, we even have things like the Xaela for whom the societal norm is to kill other tribe members on sight, instead actually befriending people from other tribes (See: The Mauci questline).

As far as other players in the game, their race is taken lorewise as being non-descript. Sure, we might see hundreds of Male Miqo'te's running about the place, but in the eyes of the lore, they're all Hyur/Roe/Elezen instead (Depending on their origins) with their tribes also being disregarded and being viewed as generic.

Since, the game only takes into consideration NPC's as canon. With your own character having some level of exception by the nature of being the WoL (Thus uniquely different to literally everyone else in the entire world by being Hydaelyn's one chosen Warrior of Light). Hence why there's so few Male Miqo'te NPC's until we get to Gyr Abania and come across the M-Tribe and more members of the J-Tribe.

[Zsolen]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before. Another player character's race is does not change from another player's perspective. That is just silly. Lore adds immersion. Removing it destroys immersion. I've seen other universes do this too often, and it destroys the immersion enough to the point that it makes unsalvagable. Final Fantasy puts a huge emphasis on story. It is the biggest selling point. Without that, this is just another grneric mmo.

Here is a real question. Why is is so important that this gender of this race be introduced as a pc? Odds are they would not be as feminine as the male miqo'te, given how they live. If people want a miqo'te with bunny ears, they would likely be disappointed. If they were as savage as lore describes them, they would be a real great addition as a pc in terms of masculinity, but they still won't fit lore.

[WhiteArchmage]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before. Another player character's race is does not change from another player's perspective. That is just silly. Lore adds immersion. Removing it destroys immersion. I've seen other universes do this too often, and it destroys the immersion enough to the point that it makes unsalvagable. Final Fantasy puts a huge emphasis on story. It is the biggest selling point. Without that, this is just another grneric mmo.

Here is a real question. Why is is so important that this gender of this race be introduced as a pc? Odds are they would not be as feminine as the male miqo'te, given how they live. If people want a miqo'te with bunny ears, they would likely be disappointed. If they were as savage as lore describes them, they would be a real great addition as a pc in terms of masculinity, but they still won't fit lore.

It also does not answer how you can make an Au Ra and Yugiri says absolutely nothing pre 3.0-storyline, or you can walk up to CCH without being shot on sight like many other Au Ra, it does not answer (again) how you can have an alliance full of male miqo'tes, it does not answer how you can have a chat in Ul'Dah with over 10 White Mages. "have any home in Eorzea nor previously seen before" can also mean how no one bats an eye at Au Ra, and soon at female Vieras and Hrothgar, because you can make a level 1 PC as that race way before they're introduced to Eorzea (and if we're getting technical, Viera haven't been introduced to Eorzea because Fran has only been in Othard).

Now to your question: There are many reasons for it, first because we've already discussed how problematic the "waifu female, beastial male" thing is; Second tied to the first, Gender locks are absurd in this day and age; Third, the "Lore" was written as an excuse, not a reason, given that Hrothgar were considered to be playable first and Viera were only introduced after they decided on Female Viera instead of Female Hrothgar; Fourth, less people care about them being feminine or overly masculine than they care about their inclusion to start with, there would be way fewer players complaining if they were released but didn't fit their expectations than just ignoring the issue like what's happening now; Fifth and this is personal: I've wanted to play a male Viera since FFTA, I always wanted to see them.

You're trying to use the Lore as an excuse in one of the places where Lore is flimsiest and most ignored. (For Heaven's sake, you can make a Female Xaela and call her a Buduga)

[Dustytome]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before.

Some leniency to such things has to take place with any new races introduced because of how the game is set up. There can always be an introduction lore written in, but that pre-intro still exists to get through for new characters and can't always tie in perfectly lore-wise.

[Shurrikhan]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before.

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

[Zsolen]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Because at least they have adventurers and nomads.

[strawberrycake11]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Ignore them. They're just trolling at this point. Keep saying "lore! lore! lore!" and ignoring any and all points brought up against them.

[Dualgunner]

Why were there a ton of Au Ra before the race had more than a single NPC in all of Eorzea? The second was only introduced with Alexander, after they had already come to inexplicably and suddenly compose a quarter of the adventurer population.

There were no Au Ra refugees. There was no connection with Othgard. Yet there were hordes of them suddenly among our adventurers.

What part of that cries fidelity of lore?

Sidurgu brought up how there were several Auri refugees, and his clan got butchered by the Ishgardians; this was in DRK questline on HW launch. It's feasible to think other Auri clans wound up in other nooks of Eorzea.

[Kalise]

"Until now" does not answer why a ton of them would be in Eorzea without a single one being known to travel or have any home anywhere in Eorzea nor even previously seen before.

Oh, because of course Eorzea has been completely overrun with Female Viera and Male Hrothgar forever right?

Not just, literally no-one in the Shroud, La Noscea, Thanalan or even Ishgard ever seeing hide nor hair of either of those two races... Until now.

It's literally not that big of a stretch for Male Viera to exist, outside of some stubborn reasoning of "No-one has seent them lul" which also implies that contrary to literally every other race in existence both in game and in real life, that every single Male Viera just blindly accepts their role in society.

Another player character's race is does not change from another player's perspective.

Yes, but if other players are cause for you to have issues with lore, then you're playing the wrong genre of game.

This is an MMO, meaning that people will often do things that are contrary to lore. Such as playing a bunch of "Rare" races like Male Miqo'te. Playing characters that are from rare tribes/clans. Playing literally one of a kind never ever seen before except the WoL because they're magical and special jobs.

Or even just using non-immersive names. There's a character on my server called Panty Inspector for example.

With an MMO setting, you have to take things with a grain of salt where other players are concerned. Since, the main thing about an MMO is that you create your own character. Which means everyone is playing as that one in a million special snowflake.

Lore adds immersion. Removing it destroys immersion.

This isn't even a case of removing lore.

This is a case of adding to it.

Or are you going to next complain about how taking over Baelsar's Wall and then leading the Resistance to retake Ala Mhigo is "Removing" the lore surrounding how Ala Mhigan's had been kicked out of their home and cannot return and thus "Destroying" immersion?

Here is a real question. Why is is so important that this gender of this race be introduced as a pc?

Because MMO's are about creating your own character. Even more so in FFXIV where your character is also a literal special snowflake that is given no backstory for the sole purpose of you headcanoning your own.

Plenty of people would be thrilled to write their own fiction about how their Male Viera came to leave the forest and their society and end up arriving in Eorzea as a common adventurer turning into the Warrior of Light.

To say nothing about the extra customization that an additional gender option would provide (To say nothing about couples in real life who would like to have a Viera couple in game, which could come with their own lore that they both decided to run away from the forest because they fell in love with each other)

but they still won't fit lore.

Only if the lore doesn't evolve. Making it unique among all the lore in the game wherein it and it alone must remain static and never change.