Worst Fanfest Ever

[Wijnand]

- No Viera Men

WHY!!??? Did they not hear the fandom at all?

- No Hrothgar Women

I just want a new feminine MALE race. Not a big beefcake. It's also not fair to women who might want to be an anthropomorphic race.

- No Healer

Four years for a new healer. I anticipate a lot of healers quitting if they do not add a new one to the role. Why would tanks get a fourth slot, but not healers?

I think my interest in the expansion just went from fascinated to "meh".

The explanation given for a fourth tank and not a fourth healer is cause the tanks needed it to make the designation of OT/MT easier... Or so the interview goes. And lets be honest the healers specially WHM need a thorough rebalance a big reason why people are bored of healers is because of how unbalanced they are in some cases. Most jobs will change as they did with SB so it isn't like your not getting anything.

As for races seriously can we drop the topic and just enjoy what we got. For some reason people have the magical ability to find something to complain about. Talking about being non inclusive to gender because your not getting a gender race is just ridiculous. Manbunnies would not have been feminine but more bulky than the female Viera. i.e. like the lion race. Just because some fanart makes them look like they can be part f the backstreet boys doesn't mean that it would have been their appearance.

[GangstarSuperstar]

What will a 3rd ranged dps do that the other 2 don't already do ?
Ah no excuse me, not 2 but 1, MCH is not even played.

You know, the fact that you didn't even try to answer the question is only proving me right. But if you care to look up the FF 11 version of dancer, I'd imagine it's going to be something like that.

[Fhaerron]

Hopefully, there’s like a surprise healer announcement. I definitely am feeling tired of our current heals.

Maybe play a different job if you're getting tired of the heal jobs we have?


Just a logic suggestion?

[jameseoakes]

Maybe play a different job if you're getting tired of the heal jobs we have?


Just a logic suggestion?

I think that's why people want another healer

[GangstarSuperstar]

But that just loops back to the question, what would a third healer even do?

[VillainQueen]

But that just loops back to the question, what would a third healer even do?

Ask the AST mains ;D

[Dyvid]

I guess the question is to all the healer mains, do you want a new healer because you hope it would fix the unbalance issue you currently have or because you want a new playstyle?

What will a 3rd ranged dps do that the other 2 don't already do ?
Ah no excuse me, not 2 but 1, MCH is not even played.

You can flip that question right around and ask what would a fourth healer do that 3 can't? Truth is SWB is going to "balance" out the jobs more with 4 tanks, 4 melee, 3 healers, 3 ranged, 3 caster. We can't expect SE to release 5 new jobs every xpac so someone is going to be left in the wind.

[OcieKo]

Points I've read in 11 pages...

Balancing gets easier the more objects you have on a surface, it is easier to balance 2 than 1, 3 than 2, 4 than 3, and so on. Less you have the more precision is required. You could very well say ASTs tumultuous run has more to be with it being the 3rd and needing to be able to fill in for whats missing. Personally I suspected AST would get gutted on the heal side and pretty much end up fighting with the new healer on the support side of the things. Before someone says how is 1 hard to balance, because by its very nature its impossible/broken, if you have no options whats being done has to work no matter what, and no valid comparison can be made. Think of video game balance more like a platform on top of a pyramid, its more weight distribution than placement, the more weighted objects you have the easier it is to make movements to improve the balance.

Male Viera/Female Hrothgar. Disappointed sure, tho personally I probably wouldn't be making a Male Viera and was already dreading seeing what they'd be going out in full force to do, but whatever. Would've like Female Hrothgar. For 2 Gender-locked races, going Viera/Ronso was a good choice in my opinion, still felt like a bit of letdown.

DPS Dancer/No Healer. Was in the camp of Dancer Healer, figured the odds of throwing weapons was decent. More disappointed that I have no new healer to play than I am with Dancer being a DPS. Personally if they wanted to switch to 1 DPS every expansion and 1 Tank/Healer I would've preferred either Tank/Healer or Tank/DPS/Healer now as basically saying going forward it'll be one of each every expansion. So it would've been T/D/H, D/D, T/H, T/D/H or T/D or D/H, T/D or D/H... We accepted that making more jobs at a time would've been overly taxing on the development team in Stormblood and resigned to waiting for new Tank/Healer for 5.0 just to wait out what became a 3DPS expansion to get... no healer. In the end, they just tightened the rope they we're balancing on for healers by requiring themselves to do a vastly better than expected job on the combat updates with no increase to the amount of working space they have for healers now since we have to accept 6 years for the next one.

The Only 2 Ranged Physical DPS, and they would have to wait 6 years. What's the difference between Ranged Physical and Caster to begin with? The difference between Melee and Ranged is noticeable at least. So mobility/cast times? Well then even that is a pretty big gradient, BLM is hard on the cast times, BRD is maxed on the mobility, SMN isn't too affected my cast times being lost, RDM is like the fulcrum of that balance space being that it only casts a bit less than half the time (once you include the melee combo finisher in, less than half of GCDs are casted), and MCH I honestly don't play or like enough but it's certainly not touching BRD for mobility. In the end from play-style perspective Ranged Physical and Casters can pretty much be lumped together, so you end up at Tanks 3(4), Melee 4, Ranged 5(6), Healer 3. Also if we split into 5, the odds of 6.0 being either Melee/Ranged or Ranged/Caster was pretty good. And on that thought Melee got nothing in Heavensward. Tank, Ranged, and Heal got nothing in Stormblood.

Dancers using Scouting vs. Aiming gear. I'd say odds favor scouting, reference point being why did Rogue/Ninja start off using Pugilist/Monk gear instead of Bard gear? Because visually it made more sense. And back then they had to retroactively add dexterity on to all the Pugilist/Monk gear to do it, this time they'd only have to add Dancer to the list on Scouting gear. It's less work than last time for the same effect, same reason there is no scouting/maiming right side accessories (don't ask what is up with the belt being the exception, I don't know).

Healers probably needing extra-incentive to be played like Tank Mounts will probably gain traction. In the end I think JPNFF mostly just increased the weight hanging over their heads for the May Combat Update Live Letter. The casual and visual audiences are now split on the expansion, it increases the need to appease the hardcore audience, and hope player paradigm balance in the casual and visual audiences have enough weight on the mechanics/gameplay corner to compensate for the disappointment in their preferred paradigms. I don't think the story audience was really hit with anything, and quite frankly the purist story audience is probably worth the least revenue, given that they only need to sub about 1-4 months a year to get everything they want out of the game.

[HakaseNyan]

Little surprised people are responding to these threads still. You won't be able to change their opinion(s); their deep seated 'disappointment' will not be unfettered by your silver tongue. What's even more surprising is replying to DamianFatale of all people. He is at the heels of controversy whenever possible, and in some cases will create it where there is none. Take this thread for instance - He wants a 'feminine' male race (viera, which there is no promise it would be feminine at all), but isn't playing Miqo'te or Elezen. Someone playing male Au Ra wants a more feminine male race? It's just bait at that point.

I'm not trying to dissuade any of you from interacting with each other, but you should know, by now, the type of people you are responding to. There is outrage, they are outraged, and if you don't agree - then you are their enemy by opposing view. They do not seek to compromise with you.

[TroySoFab]

Well they made up for it! We have bunnyboi, new sword healer, and sickle dps. 6.0 is gonna be great!