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  1. #91
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    Videra's Avatar
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    Videra Svenay
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 83
    Considering AST is just WHM and SCH slapdashed together with a gimmick? Designing healers in this game is actually egregiously difficult in due to how it's designed. For example, the slow GCD and the heavily scripted nature of fights involving burst damage would never let a HoT based healer work. Or a healer that channels spells over time wouldn't work because you should be spending GCDs on DPS and maximizing OGCD usage for healing. The only thing that -might- be workable is a melee healer, and even then the actual difference would be negligible in due to the overarching game design. Again.

    Sucks for people who wanted a healer, I totally get why you're disappointed, but it's just extremely hard to actually work with making a new one. For what it's worth, I'm horribly concerned with how Gunbreaker is going to play seeing as SE had the 'brilliant' idea of giving every tank fell cleave in 4.X.
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  2. #92
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    GangstarSuperstar's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kasanui
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Considering AST is just WHM and SCH slapdashed together with a gimmick? Designing healers in this game is actually egregiously difficult in due to how it's designed. For example, the slow GCD and the heavily scripted nature of fights involving burst damage would never let a HoT based healer work. Or a healer that channels spells over time wouldn't work because you should be spending GCDs on DPS and maximizing OGCD usage for healing. The only thing that -might- be workable is a melee healer, and even then the actual difference would be negligible in due to the overarching game design. Again.

    Sucks for people who wanted a healer, I totally get why you're disappointed, but it's just extremely hard to actually work with making a new one. For what it's worth, I'm horribly concerned with how Gunbreaker is going to play seeing as SE had the 'brilliant' idea of giving every tank fell cleave in 4.X.
    Yeah, healing needs to be completely reworked in order for a new healer to be worth it. Youd need to limit the other 3 to actually make space for a 4th healer. My concern there, however, is that it would feel kinda cheap. Chopping bits off of existing healers to make a "new" healer class just to satisfy the fanbase would be pretty disappointing.

    As for gunbreaker...idk, maybe they can apply debuffs?
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  3. #93
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    BunnyChain's Avatar
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    Rena Cebe
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 1
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    Great community btw

  4. #94
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    MiraKershaw's Avatar
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    Mira Verescu
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    You whine all races look human-like, you whine all races are cute, feminine and oh-so-adorable. You complain and complain and complain.

    It's just like when blue mage was finally introduced. Just moaning over and over.

    Everyone wanted a viera, and they still be whining.
    Everyone wanted a beast race and they still be whining.


    You can play more than one game you know? Go play some graphics novel about bunny boys if it's the only thing that gets your rocks off.

    I don't even know anymore.
    Right because everyone's just complaining to complain, NOT because everything you just listed was half assed in some way , God forbid people expect some sort of quality when they ask for something , don't even care about the races but what lol people wanted blue Mage as an actual job but we got "that" instead but Na it's just complaining for the sake of complaining
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  5. #95
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiraKershaw View Post
    Right because everyone's just complaining to complain, NOT because everything you just listed was half assed in some way , God forbid people expect some sort of quality when they ask for something , don't even care about the races but what lol people wanted blue Mage as an actual job but we got "that" instead but Na it's just complaining for the sake of complaining
    I wish I didn't have to complain, but I can't help my unhappiness with the expansion. Just like some people can't help but be happy anyway.
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  6. #96
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LiteBrite View Post
    Dps has 9 classes not 3. Your dumb lame pathetic excuses why not having a new healer is good thing. I really hope all healers strike and you have to wait hours in a que...
    ....They were EXPLICITLY talking about Ranged DPS. You can't call their argument dumb or lame when you're not even reading it correctly here...
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  7. #97
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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Zodiark
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    You whine all races look human-like, you whine all races are cute, feminine and oh-so-adorable. You complain and complain and complain.

    It's just like when blue mage was finally introduced. Just moaning over and over.

    Everyone wanted a viera, and they still be whining.
    Everyone wanted a beast race and they still be whining.


    You can play more than one game you know? Go play some graphics novel about bunny boys if it's the only thing that gets your rocks off.

    I don't even know anymore.
    You can surely understand the "moaning" about BLU though? It can't do anything.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

  8. #98
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    You can surely understand the "moaning" about BLU though? It can't do anything.
    But the alternative was never "BLU as a full job", it was "no BLU at all".
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  9. #99
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    ReiMakoto's Avatar
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    Rei Makato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    But the alternative was never "BLU as a full job", it was "no BLU at all".
    Would have honestly Taken no BLU at all, but thats just me, I get some people like this implementation, but for me theres no value there for me, and many others
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

  10. #100
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GangstarSuperstar View Post
    Ok, then on the next question. What will a 4th healer contribute to the overall game balance? What will a 4th healer do that the other 3 don't already do?
    What will a 3rd ranged dps do that the other 2 don't already do ?
    Ah no excuse me, not 2 but 1, MCH is not even played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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