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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GangstarSuperstar View Post
    Ok, then on the next question. What will a 4th healer contribute to the overall game balance? What will a 4th healer do that the other 3 don't already do?
    What will a 3rd ranged dps do that the other 2 don't already do ?
    Ah no excuse me, not 2 but 1, MCH is not even played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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    Player LiteBrite's Avatar
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    Lite Brite
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    Quote Originally Posted by GangstarSuperstar View Post
    We don't need a new healer. You people just want one. Anyone who thinks we legitimately need a new healer was probably a shit healer anyway.


    What would a 4th healer actually do that the other 3 can't do already?

    And DPS is a term that describes 3 different roles. NA seems to be the only section of the community that doesn't seem to understand that.
    You don't know what your talking about. You probably never healed before, or rarely do... You're getting to have 10 DPS and we only have 3 healers, end of story. I don't care what you to make up to make it seem this isn't the case...We don't need another DPS you have 9! I really hope and pray your dps ques are insanely long..
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    Ryuko Kasanui
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilford111 View Post
    Well my personal contribution would be a healer that doesn't have any direct heals (except for maybe one ogcd direct heal), and only works with regens, shields, and more raid utility than all 3 healers combined. Make it a difficult class to play, but more valuable to everyone due to raid utility.
    Personally I think this would work if they made Dancer both DPS and Healer, depending on which stance you choose before you que.

    There you go.

    EDIT I'm also sure the SE dev team can come up with much better ideas, too. I'm just disappointed we didn't get anything. They can create a new unique healer job.
    No direct heals eh... boy, raid wide airs are gonna suck. Yeah no, that would never work. Maybe in party finder, it will be worth it if utility is good enough to justify running it over astro. But otherwise, no. Itll especially be garbage in in PUGs since the lack of direct heals would make it terrible in dungeons and the risk of getting 2 of them in a trial/raid would be a nightmare.



    But you are the first person to legitimately try to make a suggestion and I respect that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GangstarSuperstar View Post
    No direct heals eh... boy, raid wide airs are gonna suck. Yeah no, that would never work. Maybe in party finder, it will be worth it if utility is good enough to justify running it over astro. But otherwise, no. Itll especially be garbage in in PUGs since the lack of direct heals would make it terrible in dungeons and the risk of getting 2 of them in a trial/raid would be a nightmare.
    You could make a raid-wide shield aoe, plus a raid-wide regen aoe You could prevent damage whilst also slowly building the team's HP back up. I think it could work with enough thought put into it.
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    But if the regents could heal the raid as quickly as direct healing, wouldn't that be a bit broken? What you're suggesting would either be absolutely terrible or completely invalidate the other healers if it were in any way viable.

    If you want a class with lots of raid utility.... that's honestly what RDPS is supposed to be. But it was so poorly implemented in Stormblood that RDPS (aka the BRD role) is only really viable because of dragoon. I'm honestly astonished at how few people understand this. Just look at their role actions.
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    I think they’re saving them for much later announcement.
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    Considering AST is just WHM and SCH slapdashed together with a gimmick? Designing healers in this game is actually egregiously difficult in due to how it's designed. For example, the slow GCD and the heavily scripted nature of fights involving burst damage would never let a HoT based healer work. Or a healer that channels spells over time wouldn't work because you should be spending GCDs on DPS and maximizing OGCD usage for healing. The only thing that -might- be workable is a melee healer, and even then the actual difference would be negligible in due to the overarching game design. Again.

    Sucks for people who wanted a healer, I totally get why you're disappointed, but it's just extremely hard to actually work with making a new one. For what it's worth, I'm horribly concerned with how Gunbreaker is going to play seeing as SE had the 'brilliant' idea of giving every tank fell cleave in 4.X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Videra View Post
    Considering AST is just WHM and SCH slapdashed together with a gimmick? Designing healers in this game is actually egregiously difficult in due to how it's designed. For example, the slow GCD and the heavily scripted nature of fights involving burst damage would never let a HoT based healer work. Or a healer that channels spells over time wouldn't work because you should be spending GCDs on DPS and maximizing OGCD usage for healing. The only thing that -might- be workable is a melee healer, and even then the actual difference would be negligible in due to the overarching game design. Again.

    Sucks for people who wanted a healer, I totally get why you're disappointed, but it's just extremely hard to actually work with making a new one. For what it's worth, I'm horribly concerned with how Gunbreaker is going to play seeing as SE had the 'brilliant' idea of giving every tank fell cleave in 4.X.
    Yeah, healing needs to be completely reworked in order for a new healer to be worth it. Youd need to limit the other 3 to actually make space for a 4th healer. My concern there, however, is that it would feel kinda cheap. Chopping bits off of existing healers to make a "new" healer class just to satisfy the fanbase would be pretty disappointing.

    As for gunbreaker...idk, maybe they can apply debuffs?
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    Great community btw

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    Mira Verescu
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    Adamantoise
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    Black Mage Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    You whine all races look human-like, you whine all races are cute, feminine and oh-so-adorable. You complain and complain and complain.

    It's just like when blue mage was finally introduced. Just moaning over and over.

    Everyone wanted a viera, and they still be whining.
    Everyone wanted a beast race and they still be whining.


    You can play more than one game you know? Go play some graphics novel about bunny boys if it's the only thing that gets your rocks off.

    I don't even know anymore.
    Right because everyone's just complaining to complain, NOT because everything you just listed was half assed in some way , God forbid people expect some sort of quality when they ask for something , don't even care about the races but what lol people wanted blue Mage as an actual job but we got "that" instead but Na it's just complaining for the sake of complaining
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