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  1. #431
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    Mayon's Avatar
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    X'ziyo Tia
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    Whoot! I was like 400!
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  2. #432
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    Ceridwenae's Avatar
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    I've discussed this issue in depth with my daughter, and though sad with the state of things, we've decided we're going to wait to see if SE addresses this issue further. We'll then decide if we want to support the game further (purchasing the expansion, fatter cats for all the family, etc.). I'm also confirming she wants male Viera and female Hrothgar too: inclusivity, not exclusivity!
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  3. #433
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    I agree with the cause but not with those who will stop playing only for a reason that I think is futile compared to the entire expansion. Everyone is free to do whatever he wants, but really, does this seem like a valid reason? Apart from that I'm with you for the Viera Male
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  4. #434
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryala View Post
    I agree with the cause but not with those who will stop playing only for a reason that I think is futile compared to the entire expansion. Everyone is free to do whatever he wants, but really, does this seem like a valid reason? Apart from that I'm with you for the Viera Male
    Any reason is valid reason to stop paying for something, its hard to say how important some things are to others. And why something is so important to some and not others Things like this are close to a make or break for me, much higher than a new class.
    Its not that its the only thing, but its very high on my list. And if it was not that i had such high regard for the team, and SE for the game as a whole this could have pushed me away enough.
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  5. #435
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceridwenae View Post
    I've discussed this issue in depth with my daughter, and though sad with the state of things, we've decided we're going to wait to see if SE addresses this issue further. We'll then decide if we want to support the game further (purchasing the expansion, fatter cats for all the family, etc.). I'm also confirming she wants male Viera and female Hrothgar too: inclusivity, not exclusivity!
    What's to address? Males got Hrothgar, a race that is so much more complex visually than Viera. Theres no exclusivity, it's just two different race designs instead of 4. Yoshi P specifically said that they wanted to meet two different demands (that were both equally vocal on the Viera thread), but they don't have the resources to make 4 race models, so this was the compromise that ironically means that everyone gets what they want in terms of race
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  6. #436
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    I would like them to be unlocked, at the latest by 6.0. I'm hoping for something like the FATE artwork in the OP, but I would also be open to this:



    Are there any polls up yet on the topic?
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  7. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    What's to address? Males got Hrothgar, a race that is so much more complex visually than Viera. Theres no exclusivity, it's just two different race designs instead of 4. Yoshi P specifically said that they wanted to meet two different demands (that were both equally vocal on the Viera thread), but they don't have the resources to make 4 race models, so this was the compromise that ironically means that everyone gets what they want in terms of race
    Except the people who wanted male Viera. The demand for it - and now female Hrothgar - is not going to go away, and I doubt the devs are so naive as to believe it will go away.

    As for Hrothgar, the "complexity" doesn't make them look any better in my eyes.
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  8. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    means that everyone gets what they want in terms of race
    Except the people who wanted beastly ladies, or not quite as beastly guys. Myself, I was looking forward to a slightly more built, fuzzy instead of scaly Au Ra.
    Also, while aesthetic has a lot to do with it, races also come with their lore and contexts. That sort of thing matters to a lot of people, either they're into that sort of thing and it increases their immersion and enjoyment of the story, or they're into roleplay.
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  9. #439
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    X'hjoti Mercurius
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    I have been looking forward to this since Viera was confirmed. Please give us male Viera.
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  10. #440
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Except the people who wanted male Viera. The demand for it - and now female Hrothgar - is not going to go away, and I doubt the devs are so naive as to believe it will go away.

    As for Hrothgar, the "complexity" doesn't make them look any better in my eyes.
    The point is that the idea is to please as many people as possible. I hate Viera and have no interest, and was so sad when they said no new race after 5.0. now with Hrothgar I'm a lot more happy with the race diversity and choices that players have. Male viera and female Hrothgar would be welcome and there's no problem asking for it, but don't pretend like their absence is problematic.

    Someone is always going to be upset. If it was male/female Viera, we would have people complaining about SE pandering and that this is end of XIV. If we got male/female Hrothgar, people would petition for Vieras inclusion more (like what happened after heavenward). Right now we have both races and people complaining about gender exclusivity like it matters.

    You get two race models, I'm sorry you didn't get the exact specific one you wanted, but at least you got the race you wanted added to the game. The way the Devs have done it means that as many people as possible get that.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 03-24-2019 at 08:43 PM.

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