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    Feminine or masculine it doesnt matter.
    Genderlocked races is shit and doesnt provide anything.

    People who want male Viera, want to see them how SE would design them. A mystery to be resolved.
    And by making them playable, it would of been a great customisation option. Another young, sleek looking race next to Miqote, Elezen (Giraffe) and hyurs would add variety. Many are playing the same race, same face option, same animations for years. Those things have not shake up and character creation is also a big part of MMOs.
    Ofcourse this game provides much more than cosmetics but when you do the main story, run around the cities and see your characters doubles... it does get upsetting.

    Nobody is complaining about ronsos, many actually support people that have waited for a playable beast race. But first and foremost, I feel lied to. Ive been waiting since paris FanFest for more information, and all we got is to wait for JP fanfest. It would of been different if Yoshida just wouldnt let us build up hype, he could of just stated in Paris that we will not get them and the outcry wouldnt be this much. Also the promise about no more gender locked races... I can only feel betrayed like many other veterans.

    So just because your own character doesnt matter to you or you dont need more than you got, doesnt mean others have to be fine with the given limitations as well. This whole Viera thing has started even before Heavensward. And the show your support thread didnt just grow up cause of only females, but as a whole new race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Feminine or masculine it doesnt matter.
    Genderlocked races is shit and doesnt provide anything.

    People who want male Viera, want to see them how SE would design them. A mystery to be resolved.
    And by making them playable, it would of been a great customisation option. Another young, sleek looking race next to Miqote, Elezen (Giraffe) and hyurs would add variety. Many are playing the same race, same face option, same animations for years. Those things have not shake up and character creation is also a big part of MMOs.
    Ofcourse this game provides much more than cosmetics but when you do the main story, run around the cities and see your characters doubles... it does get upsetting.

    Nobody is complaining about ronsos, many actually support people that have waited for a playable beast race. But first and foremost, I feel lied to. Ive been waiting since paris FanFest for more information, and all we got is to wait for JP fanfest. It would of been different if Yoshida just wouldnt let us build up hype, he could of just stated in Paris that we will not get them and the outcry wouldnt be this much. Also the promise about no more gender locked races... I can only feel betrayed like many other veterans.

    So just because your own character doesnt matter to you or you dont need more than you got, doesnt mean others have to be fine with the given limitations as well. This whole Viera thing has started even before Heavensward. And the show your support thread didnt just grow up cause of onle females, but as a whole new race.
    To be fair, multiple people in this thread tried to show evidence that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Multiple people in this thread chose to ignore said evidence and berate those who tried to give reasonings. So I have less sympathy for you guys now simply because of the bad attitudes I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Feminine or masculine it doesnt matter.
    Genderlocked races is shit and doesnt provide anything.

    People who want male Viera, want to see them how SE would design them. A mystery to be resolved.
    And by making them playable, it would of been a great customisation option. Another young, sleek looking race next to Miqote, Elezen (Giraffe) and hyurs would add variety. Many are playing the same race, same face option, same animations for years. Those things have not shake up and character creation is also a big part of MMOs.
    Ofcourse this game provides much more than cosmetics but when you do the main story, run around the cities and see your characters doubles... it does get upsetting.

    Nobody is complaining about ronsos, many actually support people that have waited for a playable beast race. But first and foremost, I feel lied to. Ive been waiting since paris FanFest for more information, and all we got is to wait for JP fanfest. It would of been different if Yoshida just wouldnt let us build up hype, he could of just stated in Paris that we will not get them and the outcry wouldnt be this much. Also the promise about no more gender locked races... I can only feel betrayed like many other veterans.

    So just because your own character doesnt matter to you or you dont need more than you got, doesnt mean others have to be fine with the given limitations as well. This whole Viera thing has started even before Heavensward. And the show your support thread didnt just grow up cause of only females, but as a whole new race.
    no, honestly all I have seen has been salty bitching
    Reasons and examples where given, just because you refuse to accept them and ignore then does not make them invalid.

    We got what we got, it has its reasons, and instead of looking at all the new and great things we are getting, you all choose to be vile and rude, so sorry, no sympathy at all from me.

    Come expansion, I will change to a female Viera and enjoy dancer even though its not a healer, you however can chose to enjoy what the the game does give you are leave, its that simple.
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    Just because of leaks and bugs im not obligated to trust these. And everyone tried to stay positive on this subject, because we knew everyone who shows up in this thread is just excited for seeing them.
    And yes lore stated more than enough that they do not exist to us, but that lore has been contradicting itself so many times.. so it doesnt matter where its stating. Unless its an official statement things will be always unclear.
    And whats happening right now?
    People ragequit and make a big tantrum. Like always. Eureka release, Bluemage being announced, but it will settle down and people that deeply care for it will still fight for a change. A change like having Male Miqo/Female Roe/Highlander, same sex eternal bond and Viera (even if female for now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Just because of leaks and bugs im not obligated to trust these. And everyone tried to stay positive on this subject, because we knew everyone who shows up in this thread is just excited for seeing them.
    And yes lore stated more than enough that they do not exist to us, but that lore has been contradicting itself so many times.. so it doesnt matter where its stating. Unless its an official statement things will be always unclear.
    And whats happening right now?
    People ragequit and make a big tantrum. Like always. Eureka release, Bluemage being announced, but it will settle down and people that deeply care for it will still fight for a change. A change like having Male Miqo/Female Roe/Highlander, same sex eternal bond and Viera (even if female for now)
    I mean leaks that are 95% accurate and you don't believe them, fine. That's up to you. But not believing actual game files stating that a second race is coming and knowing how the dev team is to assume we will get only one pair is on you. Yoshi didn't say anything because he was saving Hrothgar for Tokyo, simple. You guys built your own hype up and now you're crashing and it's your own fault. Definitely fight for a change, but this amount of disappointment could have been negated. You were not "lied to", I've seen that thrown around a lot and it's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean leaks that are 95% accurate and you don't believe them, fine. That's up to you. But not believing actual game files stating that a second race is coming and knowing how the dev team is to assume we will get only one pair is on you. Yoshi didn't say anything because he was saving Hrothgar for Tokyo, simple. You guys built your own hype up and now you're crashing and it's your own fault. Definitely fight for a change, but this amount of disappointment could have been negated. You were not "lied to", I've seen that thrown around a lot and it's ridiculous.
    I always tell people, its never good to ride that hype train, because when it crashes you get screwed. I am all for getting excited about new content, but I keep my expectations in check as I do. That way when something is different then I thought it would be (like Dancer being a DPS) then I dont get upset.
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    I'm disappointed by the gender lock but not overly surprised given how accurate the leaks were.

    I hope that the people that were interested in female Viera and male Hrothgar are happy with the designs and I hope that SE considers adding male Viera and female Hrothgar in the future.
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