Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Ameela]

I’m not insulting anyone, if anything I’ve seen lots insults coming from the unsub crowd calling the devs names like sexist, idiots, homophobic, etc. YouTube commenter level of toxicity isn’t going to get people what they want.

Because relatively civil discussion has worked so well in the past? looks at White Mage, Machinist, Dark Knight, locking relic behind Eureka, people's overall distaste for grindy overworld content and the release of Blue Mage...

This is just the straw that broke the camel's back for a lot of people, it's not that people are crying because they can't play as male bunnies, it's because this game has tons of issues that have been present and ignored by the devs for YEARS, individually it's small stuff but over time all of it adds up and you reach the tipping point, which is what's happened now.

[Anzaman]

The point of the temper tantrums is to let the devs know that people are indeed unhappy and would like to see this stuff changed rather than stop playing a game they might've enjoyed a lot otherwise.

Yeah tho, I remember certain threads - such as sharing locked hairstyles and racial underwear being popular, but so far we're still waiting for those as well.

I just don't see myself throwing tantrum over it, even tho they responded positively to it.

Hello again, Eorzeans.

We appreciate your continued feedback on the subject of unlocking the variances in appearance of the Hempen set across all races.

It looks like an overwhelming majority of you are very interested in this! As such, we have forwarded this feedback to the development team. In response, they would like to let you know that they are considering this for a future update!

[ScarboroughFairy]

Then, when there is a large demand, they talk about limitations of ressources, but then later announce something that ate up even more Ressources that nobody asked for.

This is one of those things where I think it should be pointed out that devs, in any videogame franchise, don't typically sit around and wait for players to tell them what should the focus their resources on. Some of that stuff was planned out months or even years before players start clamoring about what they'd like to see next. Some of that stuff takes a higher priority than the addition of something that would chew up more time than something that would offer more to the experience in terms of gameplay, bar the flavorful stuff you can experience from the dialogue in the story.

I remember how Diadem 1 failed and how people went to the "pls make the Dungeons more interessting. Diadem was horrible, please focus on good Parts of the Game to make them better.".
And then they again talked about ressources and limitations and later announced Diadem 2.

I don't have a response for this as I wasn't around for Diadem 1.

I think my main point is, though, is that the people genuinely upset to the point where they'd unsub kinda already missed the boat two expansions ago. Viera was absent for 4 years and no one got what they wanted, yet these people still kept playing. Fastforward to yesterday: Viera is slotted to be added to the game, some people got everything they asked for with the mere addition of the race, some didn't get everything they wanted. It's hard not to see those who unsub because they didn't have things exactly the way they wanted it as anything other than a tantrum, really. A tantrum thrown 4 years too late.

[Liale]

/My future Viera self waves bye bye.

On a more serious note, I am personally, and selfishly happy that there doesn't appear to be any male Viera incoming. I always gravitate towards playable races in games that only consist of female members (e.g., Asari from ME). But if I step back from selfish mode a little bit, I can see how including male Viera would have resulted in a higher number of happy players overall, since I assume that I am in the tiny minority for whom having male Viera would actually make us less happy---and even then, it's the kind of less happy that we could probably live with.

That's really the most sympathy that anyone who is upset over this is going to get from me, though, as I just can't relate/empathise.

Even if you can't relate, you are putting in a lot more effort to be understanding of others unhappiness than most are being with the typical attitude of I got what I want so why are you whining. Congratulations on being a well rounded adult.

[Liale]

but the lore said they live and die alone only coming out of seclusion to mate, and get newly discovered males and train them to live on their own.

Females are also never supposed to leave the woods but they say "bye, i'm out" all the time, you really don't believe that there would not be males that say i'm tired of defending the wood and never seeing others and living what according to the lore is an incredibly harsh lifestyle. It's inconceivable that there would not be males that left.

[Villa101]

I’m not insulting anyone, if anything I’ve seen lots insults coming from the unsub crowd calling the devs names like sexist, idiots, homophobic, etc. YouTube commenter level of toxicity isn’t going to get people what they want.

Saying someone is being sexist or homophobic is not an insult, its a criticism, you can choose to ignore or look into . But uh yeah, the fact that you view that purely as an insult instead of someone might be calling you that possibly for a reason, might be an issue.

[Physic]

I've played every single main FF game from I to XV, played all the Tactics spin-offs, 4 Heroes of Light, Bravely Default, World of FF, the mobile games, own Advent Children twice (Original and Complete), own Spirits Within, and Kingsglaive. I'm considering unsubbing because gender-locks are an absurd decision, does that negate all the love I had for the series?

I really hate the "no true fan" argument because it's really a "no true scotsman" fallacy disguised with more sentimentalism.

why was it ok for every other ff game you played in your life? You realize more races is a cost right? Would you rather one race released with two genders? What if the budget only is alotted for 2 new models? What if male vierras looked like cats? would that be ok?

you are free to do what you want, and you can be a true fan, but im not sure why having access to a race/gender that never existed when bought the game, is a deal breaker. They literalky give you more options for creating a charachter, that should be a good thing for people who want more charachter creation options.

[AloisaBelathine]

I don't really care about Viera, but this is a bad business decision considering how many people would buy fantasia if it wasn't for the genderlock.

[Imuka]

Would you rather:
A) Have the release date for Shadowbringers pushed back so that Male Viera and Female Hrothgar be added into the game?
-OR-
B) Take what you can get and allow Shadowbringers to drop the date it was announced to be released?

I would have release Male and Female Viera with 5.0 and release the Hrothgar with 5.2 by adding two new Areas to the Game and expanding the world.
If I could choose, I would have delayed it for 1-2 Months. While my System would not even require a real delay, just putting Ressources into adding 2 new Map Areas.
If we have Ressources to throw the new new Diadem at us every few Months, they will likely have the time, for 2 new Map Areas.

Despite this Quote being over 20 Years old I still bevleiev Miyamoto was not wrong. “A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”
I bet the first Version of Ocarina of Time was also great, but then they delayed it and it was a really great Game.

Just look what happened to WoW, because they forced themself into this 2 Year schedule.
Burning Crusade was great and they made it, when they felt it was a good moment and vanilla was at a good Point.
But look how worse this Game got, when they went for this 2 Year schedule to deliver an Addon.
As soon as the old one is done, they straight work on the next one, instead of focusing on the current Addon.

The Point about starving for new Content.
That is right, but the people are starving for something new which also can be other new Content.
The Problem is, that we always knew what the Devs do next and they can't surprise us, because they follow their Formula like it is a national Law.
They Players know, how the whole Structure of 5.0 will look like.
They know how the Endgame will look like.
They know how many Primals we get in the Story.
They know how many Dungeons they get.
They know so many things already, that this feeling of "New Content" will be gone in a week.
Because after finishing the Story, they will go back to what they did for the last 5 Years.

[Radacci]

To each their own i guess, but i don't really get the hype around new races, when they are just hyur with bunny/cat ears - there's even bunny ears in gold saucer, so viera has only one feature - their ears - so since viera is hyur cosplaying bunny, why not cosplay bunny with gold saucer item?
Can't fathom why ppl unsub literally only because no male with passive bunny ears that clip through everything.
Had viera looked like Carrot in One Piece, in her su'long form, i'd be hyped too, but it's just... Bunny ears...
Hrothgar is nice, though i think that's how mi'qote should have looked like.
I think it would be better to focus on the gender-locking, rather than no male viera - it's technically the same thing, but less awkward.