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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Trying to gain over personal agenda by threatening other source of income is a form of blackimailing. It the end, it is either your way or highway is non sense
    May I direct you to these threads over how "voting with your wallet" is NOT blackmail and is in fact a staple of capitalism?
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    Please do unsub if you are trying to make a point; but I will see you soon after one month or in the expansion. This is a fact that never fails me in WoW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    So, when people call other Members here crybabies who should piss out of the Game, because nobody wants them here...it is fine for the Mods and does definitly not spread hate and negativity.
    do you keep track of every such comment, and can confirm which posts got deleted, and who got banned and when?
    no they aren't fine with such comments, and it def spread hate and negativity.
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    So hey...out of everyone talking about unsubbing....who here is actually unsubbing?
    And if you are unsubbing from the game, does that mean you'll unsub the Forums to?
    Because...if you arn't going to play or support the game, then why use its forum?

    At this point I think ya'll just enjoy internet fights.
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    It is like every WoW youtubers who rely on making money off WoW but threatening to quit expansion but they never did
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    I actually unsubbed earlier today. I have played this since 1.0 and its by far my favorite game, but I just dont like the direction they are going with this expansion and decision.

    We've already been down this road before. There were originally three genderlocked races. People voiced their opinions, and we got female Roes, female Highlanders and male Miqo'tes.
    The devs said they were done with gender locks. and yet here we are....again...

    I honestly will look for any hope to resub, I WANT to play this game. But I just cant agree with this. All it would take is a dev response about time constraints, or some explanation as to why they pulled this.

    In the meantime, their silence has been noted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andavar View Post
    I actually unsubbed earlier today. I have played this since 1.0 and its by far my favorite game, but I just dont like the direction they are going with this expansion and decision.

    We've already been down this road before. There were originally three genderlocked races. People voiced their opinions, and we got female Roes, female Highlanders and male Miqo'tes.
    The devs said they were done with gender locks. and yet here we are....again...

    I honestly will look for any hope to resub, I WANT to play this game. But I just cant agree with this. All it would take is a dev response about time constraints, or some explanation as to why they pulled this.

    In the meantime, their silence has been noted.
    here's how it is: to make male viera, fem Hroth, they'd need to rework each piece of equipment in the game, to fit their models, which you might have guessed correctly, would take HUGE amount of time and money.
    Which they don't want to do, cause lore-wise Viera is a female-only-warrior-society, like Amazones. Just the fact that they added 2 new races, at all, is rather monumental.
    Also the devs don't sit around on forum, commenting on posts like you or I lol. so what do you expect? for Yoshi to post a letter, commenting about every decision he makes?
    I'm sure they will get plenty of questions about it, during next live letter, and he might talk about it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    here's how it is: to make male viera, fem Hroth, they'd need to rework each piece of equipment in the game, to fit their models, which you might have guessed correctly, would take HUGE amount of time and money.
    Unfortunately the company brought this upon themselves, This could have been the Viera expansion with the next being Ronso. They instead decided to shoehorn this together by giving us one half of two races and now we're back to 1.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Which they don't want to do, cause lore-wise Viera is a female-only-warrior-society, like Amazones.
    The company last left us with female and male art in 2015, before announcing Viera in 2018. SE has not said anything about "preserving the amazonian Viera" for three years before hitting us with a genderlock on both Viera and Ronso.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    Also the devs don't sit around on forum, commenting on posts like you or I lol. so what do you expect? for Yoshi to post a letter, commenting about every decision he makes?
    I'm sure they will get plenty of questions about it, during next live letter, and he might talk about it there.
    Yes I believe some sort of video Live letter from Yoshi would be a fantastic time to let us know their plans!
    We had one last night, they missed an opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andavar View Post
    The company last left us with female and male art in 2015, before announcing Viera in 2018. SE has not said anything about "preserving the amazonian Viera" for three years before hitting us with a genderlock on both Viera and Ronso.
    ... Did you skip everything that was said in the Ivalician Raids? Cuz you're making it sound like it came out of nowhere. It didn't... people just refused to aknowledge it because they REALLY wanted male bunnies.

    I've seen some really interesting mental gymnastics in these forums as of late.

    @OP
    I'm sorry to hear that this was the dealbreaker. Maybe other content will make you want to resub. If not, I wish you luck in your endeavours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andavar View Post
    This could have been the Viera expansion with the next being Ronso.
    Viera expansion? that sounds very dramatic for a fan-service race; not sure about their relevance in ShB, but they only had relevance in 24man raid quest-line, in SB.
    It's understandable that ppl are bothered, after being teased with male concept art, but they decided against it, for whatever reason; probably lore, time, money (always money) and how many people might potentially be interested.
    I doubt we'll ever get male viera, and if they do add them, it will just take away from other content; as i said, they'd need to rework all pieces of gear, and break the lore too.
    I'd rather they focus on actual content, than spend resources on remodelling all equipment for male viera and female hrothgar.
    Funny enough, it would have been better if they have added neither Viera nor Hrothgar at all.
    But realistically i think it's better if ppl stop hoping for it, cause it's most probable you'll get more disappointed.
    I won't be happy or sad either way - good for everyone who wants it, if they do, but the current state should be a clear indication of their plans, is it not?
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