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  1. #11
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I’m very happy. I know most were hoping for healer, and healer mains are definitely getting the short stick here, though technically physical ranged does have the fewest choices. I don’t personally play healers though and ranged is my favourite, so this is great news for me. It is sad for healers though since it’ll be quite a while before there is another chance a new job for the role will be added.
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    Last edited by Tempest222; 03-23-2019 at 04:08 PM.

  2. #12
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    "Bard needs to stop being mandatory!"

    SE: "So Dancer's a Ranged DPS."
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  3. #13
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    i wouldn't have cared if we healers didn't get screwed again grats dps once again you get something new while healers get screwrd
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  4. #14
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    "Bard needs to stop being mandatory!"

    SE: "So Dancer's a Ranged DPS."
    Result: Four jobs left relatively unplayed, up from three?
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  5. #15
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    Sunako's Avatar
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    So 6 ranged dps have 2 spots in party and 3 healers have 2 spots. Good luck in pf if you play ranged dps I guess.
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  6. #16
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    MPNZ's Avatar
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    Nephie Elz
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    So 6 ranged dps have 2 spots in party and 3 healers have 2 spots. Good luck in pf if you play ranged dps I guess.
    Um, like, you do know that turret/hlr -stress-reduction and high-mobility-support-DPS are totally different right? And, that BRD is almost completely dominant in organized party comps, right?
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  7. #17
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    Aeliott's Avatar
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    I think it makes perfect sense.
    *In the FF franchise it historically provides party-wide buffs or enemy-debuffs, much like Bard does (songs, dances, similar function).
    *Might just be me, but thinking of other ranged physical jobs is quite tough. I could eke out a few, but it's not easy, especially without treading on MCH's toes with other firearms. This way we get something that isn't piercing (pressumably?), AND can get a variety of potential weapon glams like fans.
    *With dancing being a typically supportive role, "inspiring" your allies much like Bard songs, it makes sense they're not up in the front lines like a melee dps.

    I understand the disappointment that we didn't get A healer, don't get me wrong - and I do sympathise - but focussing just on Dancer I think it fits RDPS very well. And we don't need another melee DPS at this point in time, but ranged does need a breath of fresh air.
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  8. #18
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    I can dig it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    So 6 ranged dps have 2 spots in party and 3 healers have 2 spots. Good luck in pf if you play ranged dps I guess.
    Not sure that is how the algorithm woks. Caster and Ranged are in two different categories and the DF picks it as such. Ranged DPS are defined by their ability to restore MP and TP, well were.

    "Physical ranged DPS attack foes from a distance. They excel at inflicting sustained damage, and also provide support for companions."

    "Magical ranged DPS attack foes using a variety of arcane arts. Movement is restricted by casting times, but they excel at inflicting high burst damage."
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 03-23-2019 at 11:35 PM.

  9. #19
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    I can dig it.

    Not sure that is how the algorithm woks. Caster and Ranged are in two different categories and the DF picks it as such. Ranged DPS are defined by their ability to restore MP and TP, well were.

    "Physical ranged DPS attack foes from a distance. They excel at inflicting sustained damage, and also provide support for companions."

    "Magical ranged DPS attack foes using a variety of arcane arts. Movement is restricted by casting times, but they excel at inflicting high burst damage."
    Basic partycomposition is 1 ranged, 1 caster and 2 melee dps. However you can still run savage with 2 ranged regardless it is magical or physical because they share same position. Or even if you count only certain type it is exactly same 3/1 than 6/2. Even if you count dps number as 10 for 4 spots and 3 healers for 2 spot, healer ratio is 1.5 and dps is 2.5 that mean 40% dps players will miss party or 50% ranged players can not play their job if every job would have equally amount players like in ideal scenario. If they would release healer, healers ratio would be 4/2 tanks 4/2 melee 4/2 ranged 2/1 and caster 3/1. Trinity system would be almost balanced if they would release healer instead dps. Imo that was bad choice. Even releasing RDM during stormblood was pretty big misstake imo, because that totally messed up trinity system we currently have.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 03-24-2019 at 12:16 AM.

  10. #20
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    So 6 ranged dps have 2 spots in party and 3 healers have 2 spots. Good luck in pf if you play ranged dps I guess.
    wut? 2 spots for Rangeds? are you sure? maybe you should check fflogs...the last boss...speed-kills...you will notice something like:

    BRD+SMN+BLM+DRG...3 rangeds 1 melee...
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    Last edited by Greywolfamakir; 03-24-2019 at 12:21 AM.

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