Things you DON'T want to see in Stormbringer..

[OcieKo]

No offense to you personally, but I wish people would stop using "relic" to refer to both ARR's and HW's long-term weapons.

ARR's was "relic", but more specifically it was "Zodiac".
HW's was "Anima".

As far as I know, a class specific quest earned weapon started being called a "Relic" back in EQ1 in like 2001-2004, then that became the standard term after that.
Relic the term by itself simply refers to an old and potentially valuable/storied/relished item, much in the way we call all the job specific armors Artifact, even tho a good chunk of them aren't Artifacts.

(TLDR yes I know EQ1 released back in 2001, but as far as i know Relic Weapons were added a few expansions in)

[Kalise]

Some people suggest that She might be outright lying from the start, and secretly does have evil intent, but I don't want to see that happen. I'm tired of that plot - it plays out in too many games already.

There are almost certainly revelations to be had about Her exact nature and the details of the split with Zodiark, but I want to see it happen without simply throwing away everything She has said to us so far.

I don't think that they can make Hydaelyn evil. Secretly or otherwise.

Since if she's secretly evil, then Zodiark and the Ascians wouldn't be actively trying to bring down the WoL (Hydaelyn's chosen) because it would suggest that if they facilitated her, then their goal would be achieved (Rejoining of worlds and the merging of Zodiark once again)

Which would not only mean that they'd have to retcon literally everything about Hydaelyn, but also everything about the Ascians too in order to make her evil.

Meanwhile, a much more plausible reasoning for the way she's interacting and that feeling of holding back some information, is something like how much we're harming her via using the Blessing of Light to face off against all these tough enemies like Zenos, Seiryu, like eleventy billion Ascians, Nidhogg (Twice) etc.

Which was hinted at way back in ARR around the time we met Midgardsormr and had the blessing taken away by him to prove our worth (Which we had to do because Hydaelyn was not strong enough to just hand out Blessings all willy nilly)

On another note, I think it'd be super cool if in ShB when we have to become Warriors of Darkness, we end up getting to speak to Papa Zody, where he gives his side of the story (Giving more revelations about the split from someone who's more willing to expose issues with the split - Such as potentially the fact that in order for the shards to survive without the floods of light/dark that it would involve the death of both Zodiark and Hydaelyn)

As far as I know, a class specific quest earned weapon started being called a "Relic" back in EQ1 in like 2001-2004, then that became the standard term after that.
Relic the term by itself simply refers to an old and potentially valuable/storied/relished item, much in the way we call all the job specific armors Artifact, even tho a good chunk of them aren't Artifacts.

(TLDR yes I know EQ1 released back in 2001, but as far as i know Relic Weapons were added a few expansions in)

I believe it's more due to the fact that the first stage of the Zodiac weapon (The first of these kinds of weapons) was Relic weapons. Rather than the influence of other games (Such as one might call it an "Epic" weapon referencing purple items from WoW or "Artifact" from WoW's Legion expansion with weapons that were upgraded throughout the expansion)

Players tend to just latch on to the first iteration within this game for terminology. Such as how "PotD" refers to both HoH and PotD content. How people refer to the future Exploration Mission content in 5.0 "Eureka" content (As everyone wants to keep Diadem a distant memory) etc.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Meanwhile, a much more plausible reasoning for the way she's interacting and that feeling of holding back some information, is something like how much we're harming her via using the Blessing of Light to face off against all these tough enemies like Zenos, Seiryu, like eleventy billion Ascians, Nidhogg (Twice) etc.

We never used the Blessing of Light against Nidhogg. The first time, Estinien used Nidhogg's eye to weaken him, and the second time, we had Hraesvelgr's eye.

Actually, I think the only time we directly weaponize the Blessing of Light is against Ultima Weapon and Lahabrea. We explicitly don't have it against Nabriales (he's able to enter the Rising Stones and capture Minfilia because the Blessing was sealed by Midgardsormr), and we spend most of Heavensward re-earning it. The Blade of Light used against Igheyorm is powered by Nidhogg's eye. It might just be more of a passive buff, but Ysayle mentions that the WoL fights harder than usual against Ravana, when the Blessing is still mostly sealed, so it's kind of ambiguous.

[Eldevern]

-Relics like ARR/HW/SB

A relic is grind. Ok. But... are we obliged to see it locked that way behind walls and RNG as it is?

Books was not a bad idea but... Khloe or ARR relic book are the same problem : forced content. Challenge log or roulette are not that bad as alternative. Easier content could still give light even if it is less. Roulette is already supposed to lead to random raid/dungeon. Doing roulette could be a slow but possible way do do it (and have somewhat -from my point of view- more meaning).

The real point is here : the problem is not griding, it is "forced/locked content".

Atma and relic behind Eureka are the worst to me.

Relic is supposed to be the final weapon both the one with which we will fight and the one with which we grew. Wouldn't a relic have more meaning if we can start it at 70 and grow with it through our fights? Relic behind Eureka rather than MSQ/roulettes, isn't that weird?

Couldn't be a way of weapon fusion (after all we will use several weapons)?

NB : These are juste afterthoughts

[Nariel]

- Eureka.
- "I"m a traitor but I'm not" cliché again.
- Alphinaud
- Eureka
- Limited job
- Tataru crying
- Dead vilain/ally but not dead cliché
- Yes, yes or yes dialogue choice
- Raid that are trial
- EUREKA

[CorbinDallas]

Protect. It's a boring ability and absolutely pointless beyond the first press in an instance.

[Sigma-Astra]

No offense to you personally, but I wish people would stop using "relic" to refer to both ARR's and HW's long-term weapons.

....But, that's what they are.

[Vanitas]

I don't want to eureka ever again.

[Kalise]

We never used the Blessing of Light against Nidhogg. The first time, Estinien used Nidhogg's eye to weaken him, and the second time, we had Hraesvelgr's eye.

Actually, I think the only time we directly weaponize the Blessing of Light is against Ultima Weapon and Lahabrea. We explicitly don't have it against Nabriales (he's able to enter the Rising Stones and capture Minfilia because the Blessing was sealed by Midgardsormr), and we spend most of Heavensward re-earning it. The Blade of Light used against Igheyorm is powered by Nidhogg's eye. It might just be more of a passive buff, but Ysayle mentions that the WoL fights harder than usual against Ravana, when the Blessing is still mostly sealed, so it's kind of ambiguous.

We only weaponize the Blessing of Light on specific occasions, the rest of the time it's being used as literal Plot Armour to make us not get killed when we say, take a Nidhogg blast to the face or get blasted by an Ascian Prime, or duel with Zenos and lose. Twice.

The blessing is mostly about making us not dead, while our natural strength allows us to defeat powerful foes (Such as how we toppled the Primals to get the blessing in the first place) - This along with some of the defensive benefits of the Echo (Such as the immunity to being Tempered by Primals) lets us do all the heroics we do.

[Fellgon]

No more enochian style stuff for blackmages

No more painfull jorney to relic...like ARR one.

No more limited jobs, pls make blu playable like other jobs.

No more "NO SKIPPING" Scenery