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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Yea, I can't imagine FFXIV going that far in the animalistic direction. It might have fans in the West, but I can't imagine people liking that sort of race in the East very well. With a new race I imagine the goal is to make it as appealing to players as possible. So regardless of what we're getting, it is going to be either lion flavored human or bunny flavored human. :v Or something along those lines. When you consider it like that, I can see a lion based human blending together with a general cat like race like miqote.
    I think most super animal looking races tend to come from Eastern games, though. If by East you just mean Japan then maybe, I don't know many other Japanese mmo's to compare to, but I honestly don't think Japanese people would have any issues with a beast race lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I think most super animal looking races tend to come from Eastern games, though. If by East you just mean Japan then maybe, I don't know many other Japanese mmo's to compare to, but I honestly don't think Japanese people would have any issues with a beast race lol.
    I don't know, Japan doesn't seem very big on beast races like that. 11 didn't have them and 14 hasn't had them yet. Wouldn't it be weird to have all these human-esque races and then this one that randomly looks like Tony the Tiger? :v I don't see them doing that. And it'll make girls in japan cry. They want cute stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I don't know, Japan doesn't seem very big on beast races like that. 11 didn't have them and 14 hasn't had them yet. Wouldn't it be weird to have all these human-esque races and then this one that randomly looks like Tony the Tiger? :v I don't see them doing that. And it'll make girls in japan cry. They want cute stuff.
    I mean, considering it's mooostly men playing this game, even more so in Japan, not sure this is a valid point lol. And again, the "East" aka China/Korea/Japan markets have plenty of Beastial characters and races in MMOs. The point of them not having it in the game so far is a different point entirely, but I don't know if that makes it more or less likely to put them in now. Like if the point is we want something completely new, beastial race is a positive. If we want something that's the same as what we have, then it's a minus. So I guess it depends on what side you're on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I mean, considering it's mooostly men playing this game, even more so in Japan, not sure this is a valid point lol. And again, the "East" aka China/Korea/Japan markets have plenty of Beastial characters and races in MMOs. The point of them not having it in the game so far is a different point entirely, but I don't know if that makes it more or less likely to put them in now. Like if the point is we want something completely new, beastial race is a positive. If we want something that's the same as what we have, then it's a minus. So I guess it depends on what side you're on.
    Actually, wasn't there a poll or something not too long ago that showed there is actually a large number of girls playing this game too? Or at least more so than the average MMO does. I'd think SE would consider what the female audience wants out of a male race too, instead of them deciding to cater to the furry fandom of all things. :v I'd venture there are more girls playing this game than furries at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I'd venture there are more girls playing this game than furries at least.
    Sounds more like an argument for a furry based race. They already have the girl market, so putting in something to appeal to a market they haven't yet captured is a smart business move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
    Sounds more like an argument for a furry based race. They already have the girl market, so putting in something to appeal to a market they haven't yet captured is a smart business move.
    I'd think they'd be more concerned with keeping their current playerbase happy than trying to lure furries to the game, but who knows. :v I wouldn't think they're that hard up for money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I'd think they'd be more concerned with keeping their current playerbase happy than trying to lure furries to the game, but who knows. :v I wouldn't think they're that hard up for money.
    That would have been an argument had they not released an expansion with only dps jobs. You'd think they would have wanted to keep their tank and Healer playerbase happy considering their retention is crucial to keeping the game healthy given how dependant the game is on the trinity.

    There also wasn't a new race added in stormblood either, guess they felt they didn't have to cater to the players there either.

    They already have those players playing the game, they already won them over with existing races. It makes complete sense for them to try something to appeal to a wider market, they want to increase their player count and if they feel targeting a certain market that they haven't really grabbed is the best way to do it they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
    Sounds more like an argument for a furry based race. They already have the girl market, so putting in something to appeal to a market they haven't yet captured is a smart business move.
    We do? Well spank my butt and point me in the direction of the attractive hunk race - or did you mean default race 'Hyur'. Really though, that's all 'opinion' you can't say that a specific race caters to the 'females' in regards to 'straight women are attracted to this.' If the argument is; 'women that play female toons' then yes, look at all the races that have attractive female characters - that dudes like to play. I'm one of the females that don't play as a female toon - I know many more. Shrug. Again, all down to opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    We do? Well spank my butt and point me in the direction of the attractive hunk race - or did you mean default race 'Hyur'. Really though, that's all 'opinion' you can't say that a specific race caters to the 'females' in regards to 'straight women are attracted to this.' If the argument is; 'women that play female toons' then yes, look at all the races that have attractive female characters - that dudes like to play. I'm one of the females that don't play as a female toon - I know many more. Shrug. Again, all down to opinion.
    I mean, they clearly got you didn't they? You're here playing the game and you'll likely keep playing the game even if whatever is coming isn't catered to your taste. So why would they necessarily need to cater something to your taste if they already have your membership? They clearly already have options in the game that sold you and that you play as.

    People are making claims the game has a larger percentage of female gamers, which means their existing options have been enough to appeal to that demographic in a way to make it a larger portion of the playerbase population, which is fine. But the name of the game regarding MMO's is often getting new players. If they feel they've gotten enough of a certain playerbase demographic it makes complete sense for them to try and capture a market audience they might not already have, rather than cater to only their existing ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Actually, wasn't there a poll or something not too long ago that showed there is actually a large number of girls playing this game too? Or at least more so than the average MMO does. I'd think SE would consider what the female audience wants out of a male race too, instead of them deciding to cater to the furry fandom of all things. :v I'd venture there are more girls playing this game than furries at least.
    There may be more females playing this game than other mmos like wow simply because of the FF brand, but it's still not even and definitely not close in Japan. That's just how their society is. And then you throw the whole furry thing in there because your argument has no legs to stand on, yeah. Class act. I'm done trying to have rational discussion with you too. Hope you aren't too raged come Friday, man.
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