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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
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    Viera--and pretty much all playable races in ff xiv are kemonomimi the japanese term for humans with animal ears/horns. That is a distinct difference from say, the Lupin a race of anthropomorphic wolfman with muzzles, that is undoubtly well--furry like the people who wear full out fursuits.

    This isn't me stating one is more likely than the other (Though personally I think if we get a race they'll just be buff miqo's with fur around the neck but still human faces--which would still be kemonomimi) but addressing someone stating a full fur race like Ronso is more desired by the GENERAL fanbase than something like Male viera, which I don't know is intensely desired, but again people who would want a ful fur race are most likely quite niche and furries themselves.
    I'm sorry, but no. Not everyone who wants a Ronso-like race is a furry. That's beyond asinine. If anything, I think Furries would rather look cute? I imagine anyone hopeful for Ronso would be for nostalgia sake or because they want a more masculine, beastly race. And the even more ridiculous points were that it'd be somehow illegal to make a race like Ronso in the game because maybe some countries don't allow Furries or something? What? I honestly think it won't be all that Ronso like considering the leaks have all said NOT Ronso, which makes these furry points even more out there.

    Edit: Keep in mind we also have no idea what male Viera would look like if they existed, they could be the furriest of them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    I'm sorry, but no. Not everyone who wants a Ronso-like race is a furry. That's beyond asinine. If anything, I think Furries would rather look cute? I imagine anyone hopeful for Ronso would be for nostalgia sake or because they want a more masculine, beastly race. And the even more ridiculous points were that it'd be somehow illegal to make a race like Ronso in the game because maybe some countries don't allow Furries or something? What? I honestly think it won't be all that Ronso like considering the leaks have all said NOT Ronso, which makes these furry points even more out there.
    My statement, again was in reply to someone saying a more bestial race was again, more desirable than something akin to male-viera a lot of the people(from personal experience of course) that I have seen who have desired a BEASTIAL race(I was just using ronso as an example of the aesthetic) were mostly furries or people who were dissatisfied with the lack of fur from races like miqo'te, again I could be like you've said but I still think it's a very niche portion of the community.

    Also I never mentioned anything about legality so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up, just replying to a previous statement. I'm not stating whether the new race WOULD even BE ronso-like I was responding to someone saying A BEASTIAL RACE is highly demanded by the community.

    I'm really not sure what you're getting at.

    Edit: You said base viera was no less furry than ronso, which is just--not true for the reasons I've stated before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    My statement, again was in reply to someone saying a more bestial race was again, more desirable than something akin to male-viera a lot of the people(from personal experience of course) that I have seen who have desired a BEASTIAL race(I was just using ronso as an example of the aesthetic) were mostly furries or people who were dissatisfied with the lack of fur from races like miqo'te, again I could be like you've said but I still think it's a very niche portion of the community.

    Also I never mentioned anything about legality so I'm not sure why you're bringing that up, just replying to a previous statement. I'm not stating whether the new race WOULD even BE ronso-like I was responding to someone saying A BEASTIAL RACE is highly demanded by the community.

    I'm really not sure what you're getting at.

    Edit: You said base viera was no less furry than ronso, which is just--not true for the reasons I've stated before.
    Just lumping my responses into one post and too lazy to quote each one. Someone in the previous page posted about legality. and I'm trying to say that your points are ridiculous. That's all. You're saying most people who want Ronso are furries, and that's just not true lol. I think both bunny men believers and people who want a lion race would be niche in this game, since most people play female toons anyway.

    Edit: Having more fur is NOT the same as being something a "furry" would want to be. It's just a different aesthetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Just lumping my responses into one post and too lazy to quote each one. Someone in the previous page posted about legality. and I'm trying to say that your points are ridiculous. That's all. You're saying most people who want Ronso are furries, and that's just not true lol. I think both bunny men believers and people who want a lion race would be niche in this game, since most people play female toons anyway.
    The people who play female toons only do so because they lack a real thin "feminine" male counterpart to do so from what I know from first hand experience, male miqo'te being too "stout" for what some want to accomplish, and again there's a difference between a "lion" race and a "ronso" race. The simple fact is that if races like ronso, beastial races were highly desirably they would have been released already, even the people who complain about au ra looking the way they do are relatively niche as au ra is one of the more popular races played, while hulking beastial races like Ronso would probably have a play count similar to Roe's which is just not very much.

    If Male viera looked like roe or ronso, then yes it would be just as niche, but the preconceived notion people have it being a beautiful muscular "ikemen" similar to au ra but with more aesthetically pleasing features, inherently makes it more desirably than a full on BEASTIAL RACE. Is what I was getting at and what i can easily back up with the only close iteration we have of a full on beastial race, Roe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    The people who play female toons only do so because they lack a real thin "feminine" male counterpart to do so from what I know from first hand experience, male miqo'te being too "stout" for what some want to accomplish, and again there's a difference between a "lion" race and a "ronso" race. The simple fact is that if races like ronso, beastial races were highly desirably they would have been released already, even the people who complain about au ra looking the way they do are relatively niche as au ra is one of the more popular races played, while hulking beastial races like Ronso would probably have a play count similar to Roe's which is just not very much.

    If Male viera looked like roe or ronso, then yes it would be just as niche, but the preconceived notion people have it being a beautiful muscular "ikemen" similar to au ra but with more aesthetically pleasing features, inherently makes it more desirably than a full on BEASTIAL RACE. Is what I was getting at and what i can easily back up with the only close iteration we have of a full on beastial race, Roe.
    Lol mmk dude. Done arguing with you since you're throwing out opinions as "simple fact"s. What you think/desire is not indicative of the world. Good luck on Friday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Lol mmk dude. Done arguing with you since you're throwing out opinions as "simple fact"s. What you think/desire is not indicative of the world. Good luck on Friday night.


    I mean.

    BTW I'm not even saying male viera are gonna be in, or that we won't for sure get a beastial race, just that based on statistics everyone is not jumping out of their seats waiting to play a big hulking lion headed man.

    You seem kinda upset buddy.

    edit: By the way I don't even really care about male viera, I'm not switching and generally don't care about races to begin with, but you have a very "HEHE IDIOT LEAKS ALREADY SAID WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YOU'RE NOT GETTING MALE VIERA STUPID, JUST WAIT UNTIL FANFEST TO SEE THAT I'M RIGHT" attitude that's really quite irksome seeing as my statement had nothing to do with male viera being added or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    Just lumping my responses into one post and too lazy to quote each one. Someone in the previous page posted about legality. and I'm trying to say that your points are ridiculous. That's all. You're saying most people who want Ronso are furries, and that's just not true lol. I think both bunny men believers and people who want a lion race would be niche in this game, since most people play female toons anyway.
    It's something like 60/40, I believe. You only really see female au ra and viera significantly outnumbering the males (and male au ra still outnumber male elezen and roegadyn.) On aggregate, there's more female toons, but that's all down to existing options and doesn't apply consistently across each race. So, while one male option could garner say 10% of played toons, the other might garner 5%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post

    edit 2. Nevermind I remembered that like half of those hyurs are blooming 'bots' probably.
    I believe the metric in question cuts those out, given the criteria it applies for "active characters". You'll see a much higher number of male hyur if you look at total characters, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    If anything, I think Furries would rather look cute?
    What looks cute depends on the person. For example, I find Galka adorable, yet others see them as ugly for whatever reason. I also find Ronso to be adorable.

    Meanwhile, I find races like Au Ra, Miqo'te and Viera to be extremely boring and not cute at all.
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