MCH vs BRD

[Hussain]

While everything Nobel said is true it is extremely hard for mch to out dps a bard of equal gear and skill. This mainly being because of mch's clunky and strict rotation. Machinist is also wild more dependent on wildfire and a good/bad ping on your side can be devastating to your dps.

this is false , Mch easily outdps Brd. if you can't do the rotation correctly that does not mean what you're saying is true.
I can say Sam doesn't outdps ninja cause I'm doing the rotation wrong
anyway although Brd falls behind Mch in personal dps but Brd raid dps covers for it. overall dps Brd>Mch / personal dps Mch>Brd
in terms of utility they both share tp and mp refresh and palisade which is a 20% physical CD for tanks
Mch has Hypercharge and dismantle
Brd has troubador , nature's minne , foe , battle voice and a perm 2% crit for the rest of your party
if you want to play the better job go Brd , if that doesn't matter to you then play whatever you're enjoying. It's the end of the expansion and most teams don't care about what's the most optimal job

[Selond3]

[QUOTE=Hussain;4910005]this is false , Mch easily outdps Brd. if you can't do the rotation correctly that does not mean what you're saying is true.

Read the whole post. I said it is hard to out dps a brd because of the rotation not that it isnt possible. The rotation outside of wildfire is quite simple as is lining everything up for wildfire. However unlike brd, mch depends on you having a fairly strong internet and low ping because there is alot of double weaving during wildfire and even a single mistake will tank your dps. Does mch out dps brd in a one on one situation? Yes. Is it as easy easy for the mch? No.

[Hussain]

[QUOTE=Selond3;4911918]

this is false , Mch easily outdps Brd. if you can't do the rotation correctly that does not mean what you're saying is true.

Read the whole post. I said it is hard to out dps a brd because of the rotation not that it isnt possible. The rotation outside of wildfire is quite simple as is lining everything up for wildfire. However unlike brd, mch depends on you having a fairly strong internet and low ping because there is alot of double weaving during wildfire and even a single mistake will tank your dps. Does mch out dps brd in a one on one situation? Yes. Is it as easy easy for the mch? No.

again this is wrong "there is alot of double weaving during wildfire" after you put wf on , you only doube weave once.
yes mch needs to have a good ping but not very low ping , ~95 should be more than enough
players who say it's hard to execute mch rotation correctly is hard because it's clunky...etc actually confuse me , I look at it as they didn't practice enough