Have to speak about SB ost

[SilverObi]

That sure is an opinion right there. I disagree though, SB has tons of extremely strong tracks and gorgeous arrangements of the overarching main theme.

[Kazhim]

well i say often, ppl are free to love trash, and i dont judge, that. you have right to like this, but you have no right to tell me this is good or great, cause it is not true.
For me that not an opinion, i m sur that some music worker on this field will tell you whats wrong with this music

i saw a video about this on ost of ff10
so even if my knowledge is poor, my feel mean something.

Also to argu better i ll need to debuilt each tract part by part and tell you what wrong, but the exercice is hard, harder to translate in english.

[Penthea]

well i say often, ppl are free to love trash, and i dont judge, that. you have right to like this, but you have no right to tell me this is good or great, cause it is not true.

But you somehow have the right to make a thread about how it's crap?

For me that not an opinion, i m sur that some music worker on this field will tell you whats wrong with this music

I have studied music since childhood and I am a classically trained pianist. I love a great deal of the music from SB. The day music in The Lochs and the night music in The Ruby Sea are some of my favourite tracks in the whole game.

[Kazhim]

But you somehow have the right to make a thread about how it's crap?



I have studied music since childhood and I am a classically trained pianist. I love a great deal of the music from SB. The day music in The Lochs and the night music in The Ruby Sea are some of my favourite tracks in the whole game.

Just how can we love that? there is 3 4 poor note?

not, not how

you may love that

but that still trashy music in creation.

ok you pianist, good, but sorry i dont believe you if yu tell me this track is good

show me a shiit, and tell me that gold, i see still a shit.

ok lets do an exercice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IkIGkp9OyE

here yangxia music

what do we hear?

1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 , wind instrument noysi high then low, back and forward 1 2 3 1 2 3

same kind of note every 20 sec, with a little refrain very very annoying to hear. i love asia, but have to say i m not always receptiv to all their music. but i love their music, and i have to say that yangxia has everything to make you sick.
3 poor note, repeated every 40 sec,

and only 2 instrument

ok we can do good music with one instrument, but you repeat the same note each time, you ll bored ppl i m sure as pianist you never do that to entertain your public no?




Now vanu vanu coming home, that i just discovered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE4Yn-QVdbY

hear how it start, already we have several instrument playing differently a part, a melting of instrument of several countries around the world,
the start is strong, then go chill and low, to make it resting, befor up again on high tone with some epic feel to give.

The flut give alot spirit of south america, and drum of africa, melting to some asian.

dare to tell me those both track are in the same level of quality and creation.

I dont find all hw music perfect, but i described already what did i find good and very well done compared to sb.

obsviusly HW is more deeper, worked, with a real soul in it, than all sb wont ever had.
We can say sb music are ok, but that all. they are not more than just common music, most of them really cliche.

Also vanu vanu, are iconic tribe, unique, with identity strong,
which sb doesnt have really, we have all asia, japan stuff, ninja turtle. mongolian tribe with horn,

Anyway even you have to admit, to this comparison, vanu track is more valuable than yangxia.

after why ppl like this, i dont really know, but sometime ppl like trash, that all, i wont judge, but still yangxia and other music of sb arent great
of course, do you find good that all dungeon music are just remixed of the map music, which was not the case in hw??

And here an exemple of a good asian track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM1tjTvFAc

kind of music we could expect for sb god dam it!

definitly not same level, definetly!

[Berethos]

I know Nobuo were on this, and we feel it.

Nobuo Uematsu only composed Dragonsong from Heavensward. Except for a few tracks from 1.0 that made their return during HW, the music was composed by Masayoshi Soken. The same guy that did A Realm Reborn, Stormblood, and will be doing Shadowbringer's music.

And here an exemple of a good asian track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM1tjTvFAc

It's called ambiance. Namai and the surrounding area in Yanxia is supposed to have a pastoral feel to it - a more quiet, countryside type area. The track you linked, while fun to listen to, would not at all create that kind of ambiance.

[Krokov]

Nobuo Uematsu only composed Dragonsong from Heavensward. Except for a few tracks from 1.0 that made their return during HW, the music was composed by Masayoshi Soken. The same guy that did A Realm Reborn, Stormblood, and will be doing Shadowbringer's music.



It's called ambiance. Namai and the surrounding area in Yanxia is supposed to have a pastoral feel to it - a more quiet, countryside type area. The track you linked, while fun to listen to, would not at all create that kind of ambiance.

Uematsu-san also composed Revolutions for SB.

[Neri]

And here an exemple of a good asian track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM1tjTvFAc

kind of music we could expect for sb god dam it!

definitly not same level, definetly!

Wut? That track was trash.

[Limonia]

well i say often, ppl are free to love trash, and i dont judge, that. you have right to like this, but you have no right to tell me this is good or great, cause it is not true.

You do understand that what you have is an OPINION? What you think is not the truth that has to count for everyone else, but your personal view of it.

Many people like the music of Stormblood. You don't have to. It's your right to dislike something, no matter how many other people like it.
Even if many people also say that the story or the storytelling of Stormblood was weaker than that of Heavensward, most people still like the regions. So if you don't like it, then so be it. But don't say it is bad because that's just your opinion of it and not the universal truth. Same with everything else you say.
Please try to understand that while you can of course have an opinion, the way you always portray it as if it must be the one truth comes off as really unfavorable towards OUR opinions.

[HyoMinPark]

well i say often, ppl are free to love trash, and i dont judge, that. you have right to like this, but you have no right to tell me this is good or great, cause it is not true.

Hey, look. Another person who doesn't know the difference between facts and opinions.


Personally, I like SB's music. Especially the primal tracks. Main reason I have mount music on is so I can listen to "Sunrise" (Suzaku's theme) and "Wayward Daughter" (Tsukuyomi's Theme). Phase 1 of Castrum Fluminis is also nice ("Nightbloom"); very good, tense music.

"Parting Ways" is a very good "sad theme"; I love it almost as much as HW's "Contention" and "Misconception".

I'm also a little bit obsessed with "Heartless" and "Final Heaven" (o12s themes). I spam o12n sometimes just to listen to "Heartless" (and because I really like M & F).

The main theme of SB is good ("Revelations") - anything Susan Calloway sings is godly, imo - but I personally think it's the weakest of all three themes (the other two, of course, being "Answers" and "Dragonsong"). Nothing beats "Answers" for me, but "Dragonsong" had that intensity to it "Revelations" doesn't for some reason.

I think it's because of Final Steps of Faith. Just watching your character walk slowly towards Nidhogg as it begins to play, and feeling that build up towards the climax of the Dragonsong War is just asdfghjkl feels. I get chills every time.

HW is still my favorite in terms of music, but I don't think SB is anything to scoff at. There are several tracks on it I listen to for "mood setting" when I sit down to write. You're welcome to dislike the music, but you cannot definitively say "this is bad" because that's an opinionated statement. And opinions can't be "right" or "wrong".

[Ramesses]

That sure is an opinion right there. I disagree though, SB has tons of extremely strong tracks and gorgeous arrangements of the overarching main theme.

Very much agreed... and Kazhim won't win any supports by establishing that "people are free to love trash".

I believe she's bang out of line on that one.