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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    mounts are everywhere, doesnt change anything, and full clears are not impossible. Its never going to be a do whatever you want group, experienced players will show regular playere, basically the same as discord, without signing up queuing, and server hopping for hours.

    it happens in other games, it happens in jp. People want to succeed, if people tell them how, they will learn.
    I was more responding to the other person saying people wanting a high success rate is a bad thing, and one of the reasons is because of the unique reward they put all the way at the end that people want which falls in the "design" being at fault. Let's be real here, if there was no unique reward for clearing the entire thing or if you could buy the ozma mount for fragments the salt wouldn't even be as high since the rest of the stuff can be bought off the MB and the fragments can be slowly farmed even if you don't make it very far.

    I'm not saying a group of 50 pugs wouldn't ever beat it. Who wants to gamble on having enough people and the right amount of jobs to get to the end when you can delevel and waste more time. The player base just took things into their own hands. If people would rather sit for 2 hours doing nothing to get enough people to go in that says something.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 03-13-2019 at 05:48 AM.

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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    I was more responding to the other person saying people wanting a high success rate is a bad thing, and one of the reasons is because of the unique reward they put all the way at the end that people want which falls in the "design" being at fault. Let's be real here, if there was no unique reward for clearing the entire thing or if you could buy the ozma mount for fragments the salt wouldn't even be as high since the rest of the stuff can be bought off the MB and the fragments can be slowly farmed even if you don't make it very far.

    Who wants to gamble on having enough people and the right amount of jobs to get to the end when you can delevel and waste more time. The player base just took things into their own hands.
    perhaps, i never really got the mount craze. most people i know who want to it want the fragments and the challenge if beating it, the mount is just a trophy to show they can do it.
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