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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    What if it was just a new race we were getting instead of male Viera that's lion based and has a majestic mane?
    Then a lot of people would be very displeased if you haven't noticed :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    What if it was just a new race we were getting instead of male Viera that's lion based and has a majestic mane?


    Edit: Why does every post about hrothgar you make have to emphasize it replacing male viera my young spud son?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    That was sarcasm if it wasn't obvious - the two aren't comparable. Not even Ronso and Khajiit are comparable in the lore department - would be actually unfair to compare them.
    I mean, the two aren't comparable so why is you're entire argument comparing the two? Whatever ESO has or does is largely irrelevant to what FFXIV does. They're competing products but that's about it. Other games having feline like races doesn't mean anything to SE about putting in their own. If they have a concept they think players new and old would like they can do it.

    Again, everyone against the genderlock seems to be entirely inflating the negative impact it could potentially have, when tons of decisions implemented into this game can be perceived to have the same or larger negative impact yet they're still added.

    I also think people overlook some of the benefits to them doing a gender lock from a narrative/world building perspective. We haven't seen the majority of the lands of planet, each area is going to have its collection of races that inhabit it. For example, we are likely heading in Ilsabard in the future. Which is a great landmass likely filled with plenty of new races we haven't heard about or seen. If we are heading there and they want to have a new player race come from these lands, they could have opted to do a temporary gender lock so they could develop assets for this new race which will inhabit these new lands we go to.

    This way, we can go into these lands and meet some of the locals, experience their lore and some of their society and get to play as some of them, while later down the road we get the option to play as the other races.

    This way, we can get access to these new lands, without it later being an even more jarring experience for a new player race to just pop out of the ground and be from places we have been to but never encountered them. It'd be akin to if we had gone to Othard before Au Ra were added to the game and then suddenly they added Au Ra later and they were supposed to have been from Othard the whole time.
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    Last edited by Alesone; 03-19-2019 at 01:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesone View Post
    I also think people overlook some of the benefits to them doing a gender lock from a narrative/world building perspective. We haven't seen the majority of the lands of planet, each area is going to have its collection of races that inhabit it. For example, we are likely heading in Ilsabard in the future. Which is a great landmass likely filled with plenty of new races we haven't heard about or seen. If we are heading there and they want to have a new player race come from these lands, they could have opted to do a temporary gender lock so they could develop assets for this new race which will inhabit these new lands we go to.

    This way, we can go into these lands and meet some of the locals, experience their lore and some of their society and get to play as some of them, while later down the road we get the option to play as the other races.

    This way, we can get access to these new lands, without it later being an even more jarring experience for a new player race to just pop out of the ground and be from places we have been to but never encountered them. It'd be akin to if we had gone to Othard before Au Ra were added to the game and then suddenly they added Au Ra later and they were supposed to have been from Othard the whole time.
    I have no idea what you're even trying to say here. I'm completely baffled. You know they can make races and expansions at the same time right? They suddenly can't because of "lore" or whatever. If they don't have the assets to make a race and need to genderlock them, why even make a race at that point if it's just going to be limited and received poorly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    I have no idea what you're even trying to say here. I'm completely baffled. You know they can make races and expansions at the same time right? They suddenly can't because of "lore" or whatever. If they don't have the assets to make a race and need to genderlock them, why even make a race at that point if it's just going to be limited and received poorly?
    I'm saying they may have opted to split the genders so they could introduce a new race earlier to go along with the expansion of territory and regions we would be going to.

    For example, if we are going to ilsabard and they want us to have a player race from that area, then we would need to potentially encounter them as we are going through the journey in those lands. The same goes for viera, if we are heading to their territory as well we need to be able to see some of them. So this means they can develope some of the assets now to cover twice the area of potential story locations, while still giving them the option to undo the locks later.

    It's pointing out that there's other positive reasons for them to potentially gender lock the races. Anything they do with this game is "recieved poorly" by some demographic of the players and isn't (nor shouldn't) be a major deterrent to doing things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cicatriz313 View Post
    What if it was just a new race we were getting instead of male Viera that's lion based and has a majestic mane?
    What if people had been wanting apples for years, writing their eagerness to get apples, voicing this will for apples, then one day you are told "here are red apples. You wanted green apples? Here, have a banana."

    Damn 5 days to wait, and I'm going crazy with fruity metaphors. Please end me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    What if people had been wanting apples for years, writing their eagerness to get apples, voicing this will for apples, then one day you are told "here are red apples. You wanted green apples? Here, have a banana."

    Damn 5 days to wait, and I'm going crazy with fruity metaphors. Please end me.
    "HUBBAH BUBBAH GETTING HOPES UP HUBBAH BUBBAH LEAKS HUBBAH BUBBHA OWN FAULT HUBBAH BUBBHA NOT A FURRY, HROTHGAR DEMANDED HUBBAH BUBBHA."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    "HUBBAH BUBBAH GETTING HOPES UP HUBBAH BUBBAH LEAKS HUBBAH BUBBHA OWN FAULT HUBBAH BUBBHA NOT A FURRY, HROTHGAR DEMANDED HUBBAH BUBBHA."
    I mean, Blufever - the leaker who got most of the info right - never mentioned 'Hrothgar' until later. DUN - DUN - DUN. I mean if they were made 'first' then makes sense he would have known about them before the Viera, right?
    Love me some speculate, ah yes.

    Edit - he never mentioned a name for the lion race, and never said they were genderlocked just that there was 'two races'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I mean, Blufever - the leaker who got most of the info right - never mentioned Hrothgar until later. DUN - DUN - DUN. I mean if they were made 'first' then makes sense he would have known about them before the Viera, right?
    Love me some speculate, ah yes.
    Right, also correct me if I'm wrong but I recall him posting on syncweavers vids and didn't mention anything about viera being(to my memory) being a genderlocked race. I really wish he hadn't nuked all of his comments since I think he posted more stuff on there than gamefaqs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    "HUBBAH BUBBAH
    Hubbah Bubbah sounds like Wumpa.
    Wumpa is a fruit.
    Crash Bandicoot is a Hrothgar.
    Please look forward to it.
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