Can we report the Baldesion Arsenal discord group?

[HarryTipper]

Just got to Hydatos, and I have noticed a lot of bad behavior. Its filled with mostly raiders, and people that don't care to help.

One time I shouted LFG NM TRAIN, and got dropped for asking for a ride.

You bet I reported them.

I feel bad for the GMs that have to go through cases like this. What an absolute waste of time.

[Thamorian]

I disagree. People who are toxic like that are up to no good, and should be reported for bad behavior. Toxic people like that are like sponges for awful activity.

Again I say:

Unfortunately for you that not a reportable behavior. You can't force others to let you or keep you in your party and you cannot force others to give you a ride.

SE will never take action because its not behavior that is against the rules. You can try report it, but GM's won't take any action and you would just be wasting your time. Demand all you want, no one is obligated to let you stay in their party.

[NazSkyre]

This may already have been posted, but indeed harassment is reportable, as is breaking the ToS. Ostensibly, that includes using 3rd party software to affect gameplay. Discord may fall under that category, and it's not impossible that a report on 3rd party software use by a group would actually be taken seriously (though it could just as easily not).

[HyoMinPark]

Just got to Hydatos, and I have noticed a lot of bad behavior. Its filled with mostly raiders, and people that don't care to help.

One time I shouted LFG NM TRAIN, and got dropped for asking for a ride.

You bet I reported them.

I'm sorry, but you cannot force players to let you ride on their mounts. That's ridiculously petty of you to attempt to get them punished.

This may already have been posted, but indeed harassment is reportable, as is breaking the ToS. Ostensibly, that includes using 3rd party software to affect gameplay. Discord may fall under that category, and it's not impossible that a report on 3rd party software use by a group would actually be taken seriously (though it could just as easily not).

Discord does not fall under the "Third Party Software" rule of the ToS. That only applies to applications that interact with and/or modify the game, game client, or game files. Discord does none of those.

■Behaviour that disrupts the game balance
Square Enix strictly prohibits the use of third-party programs or tools – including programs and tools that permit automated or “absentee” play – in Final Fantasy XIV. Accordingly, the following activities are prohibited:

- Modifying, analysing, integrating, and/or reverse engineering game software or data.
- Creating, distributing, using, or promoting utilities that interact with the game.
- Exploiting Square Enix programming bugs or glitches.
- Automating gameplay processes.

Source: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1

[Alucard135]

This may already have been posted, but indeed harassment is reportable, as is breaking the ToS. Ostensibly, that includes using 3rd party software to affect gameplay. Discord may fall under that category, and it's not impossible that a report on 3rd party software use by a group would actually be taken seriously (though it could just as easily not).

"Square Enix strictly prohibits the use of third-party programs or tools – including programs and tools that permit automated or “absentee” play – in Final Fantasy XIV". You can't use discord in FFXIV. If people were speaking through their phones, would that be considered a 3rd party tool now? If discord was to interact with the game itself in anyway, then it is considered one of those prohibited 3rd party programs.

On side note (ironically), where's OP lol? Him not responding at all after the other response that was filled with more holes will only prove that he either made up the story or his friend lied to him.

[Causality]

"Square Enix strictly prohibits the use of third-party programs or tools – including programs and tools that permit automated or “absentee” play – in Final Fantasy XIV". You can't use discord in FFXIV. If people were speaking through their phones, would that be considered a 3rd party tool now? If discord was to interact with the game itself in anyway, then it is considered one of those prohibited 3rd party programs.

On side note (ironically), where's OP lol? Him not responding at all after the other response that was filled with more holes will only prove that he either made up the story or his friend lied to him.

The OP vanished and another person Mirabell Weaver-Cactuar sort of Hijacked the thread (They're good at Hijacking things) and we're about halfway through this spiral of chaos and dissent.

[XiXiQ]

Ironically, SE can end all this stupidity by giving raise back.

[NazSkyre]

I'm sorry, but you cannot force players to let you ride on their mounts. That's ridiculously petty of you to attempt to get them punished.



Discord does not fall under the "Third Party Software" rule of the ToS. That only applies to applications that interact with and/or modify the game, game client, or game files. Discord does none of those.



Source: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1

Legally, that wording doesn't preclude unfair game play advantages gained from 3rd party software outside of direct code changes. Providing some specific examples to that effect doesn't preclude the broader implication as well.

"Square Enix strictly prohibits the use of third-party programs or tools – including programs and tools that permit automated or “absentee” play – in Final Fantasy XIV". You can't use discord in FFXIV. If people were speaking through their phones, would that be considered a 3rd party tool now? If discord was to interact with the game itself in anyway, then it is considered one of those prohibited 3rd party programs.

On side note (ironically), where's OP lol? Him not responding at all after the other response that was filled with more holes will only prove that he either made up the story or his friend lied to him.

In =/=within. The clause along with others speaks to unfair advantage or unintended effect for game play, not solely game altering applications. FFLOGs, for example, is a 3rd party tool that is unequivocally against ToS as stated by the team, yet it doesn't change any code in the game.

The point is, an argument could reasonably be made that they are using a 3rd party software tool to affect game play in a way not intended by SE. They may or may not see it that way or respond to it that way, but taking it seriously is not inconceivable.

[Xuled]

Well, I certainly don't believe any of this but if it did happen, report it to the Discord group mods. They take these things very seriously.

[TaiyoShikasu]

ITT: Great community btw.