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  1. #331
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    Causality's Avatar
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    Nutritious Delicious
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Guess doing content the way I want it and the way SE allows it means that I should die for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?

    It means that you should not blame your failure to perform mechanics on other players.
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  2. #332
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    Balthassar Strongham
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    Masamune
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    Discord its a cancer for BA and Hydatos at all, atleast on Chaos DC.
    The other day I ''sniped''? a portal on a public dungeon and was a free portal, and people start to make comments that didnt felt so comfortable.
    Not just BA, also the last weeks people attitude dropped in quality a lot even in casual content... and Im tired of report people(whit reason) everyday.
    Moved to JP DC, after 3 hours I was facing Ozma, did a mistake and died but maybe next i will clear, it was the second time i enter BA after the Twins also note i dont know japanese so there was a heavy language barrier.
    They are ages far on respect than EU DC.
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    Last edited by SekkerOfTrust; 03-10-2019 at 10:25 AM.

  3. #333
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    MPK's Avatar
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Do not forget that yesterday you did say in shout chat when Ovni spawned "There's a BA group here? time to snipe a portal", which I did find odd that you said that openly. And when I asked the people on discord if that's a reportable statement, they mentioned that it's not, and we should just ignore you and that you're not doing anything against TOS.
    That's just me announcing my intentions of joining BA with everyone else. You guys are completely free to not join. I am doing content the way it was intended
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  4. #334
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Just got to Hydatos, and I have noticed a lot of bad behavior. Its filled with mostly raiders, and people that don't care to help.

    One time I shouted LFG NM TRAIN, and got dropped for asking for a ride.

    You bet I reported them.
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  5. #335
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    Andrew Constantine
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    my only beef with this narrative, is the regular player feels they have to apologize for playing the game as intended. he didnt snipe anything. he did exactly what any one going in BA is supposed to do. Enter with an intention to co operate for victory. My main problem with discord is the consistent ideaology that they have dibs on portals, as evidenced in your story about the "sniper"
    For me I said this before since I do BA for fun, I tell people "I want you guys to get in before me, I am not a priority, I am here to have fun but if someone takes the portal before me I will not be mad."
    I do BA for fun but in our data center its different from other data centers. We like to work together and get things together, we have openly accepted people into the server. Yes, there is toxicity but not everyone is toxic. I helped someone get to 60 who wants to BA, got him the top with the cloth for free and helped him on his way because that's what I love to do, I love to help others instead of not giving them a chance. I am kinda like the guy that joined. Even though we didn't use the word snipe but take a portal instead and he didn't know, he was light-hearted and said sorry, he wasn't forced too but he said it without being told to say sorry. He was light-hearted like me and just didn't know like when I was 52 and almost took a portal but..level 52 so couldn't.
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Just got to Hydatos, and I have noticed a lot of bad behavior. Its filled with mostly raiders, and people that don't care to help.

    One time I shouted LFG NM TRAIN, and got dropped for asking for a ride.

    You bet I reported them.
    I've always taken folks without a mount around Eureka with me. I have my Amber Draught Chocobo and he is the bestest bird.
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  7. #337
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaMolly View Post
    I'm saying sniping annoys people. Even so, they shouldn't be trying to kill people, but sniping DOES draw some ire. Most who snipe intentionally know this and simply don't care.

    To rephrase, I don't know why someone who is IN the discord at one point doesn't just join a group instead of taking a portal from another and going solo.
    because discord is not simply about communication, its about organization and filtering groups of people. Basically, the only way some people wish to do BA, is by just entering a portal and trying for a win. The way discord prefers you do it, is by signing into a queue, being selected by a leader from an appropriate group, trying to get into a specific instance for X amount of time.

    yes, a person like this poster isnt too concerned with fact it pisses people off. The price of not pissing people off is too high for them. Most players arent like them, and just choose not to take part in the content, but the poster is actually valid in how they approach the content, they are just rejecting the NA meta. Takes a lot of balls to go into a situation you know is going to be hostile, but on paper they dont appear to be doing anything technically wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrestia View Post
    But I never said public content doesn’t work. I pointed out examples of great public content, in fact. I said that one specific type of public content: linear raid zones with no objectives for anyone except the one big group, doesn’t work. GW2 is an MMO-lite with fundamentally different game systems. With BA you’re talking about content that requires a roughly particular content system and where a single person can cause a run-ending wipe. GW2 expects each player to dodge damage on their own and heal themselves, which is why there’s plenty of video of skilled players soloing dungeon bosses that wipe entire parties. No one of any skill level is going to be soloing BA.
    gw has large map wide events where single players can screw it up, and require more coordination than BA.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqZV7UYkUE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-X5_HdtMoI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dds64irns5E
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    Last edited by Physic; 03-10-2019 at 10:47 AM.

  8. #338
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    Thamorian's Avatar
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    Luna Sol
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Just got to Hydatos, and I have noticed a lot of bad behavior. Its filled with mostly raiders, and people that don't care to help.

    One time I shouted LFG NM TRAIN, and got dropped for asking for a ride.

    You bet I reported them.
    Unfortunately for you that not a reportable behavior. You can't force others to let you or keep you in your party and you cannot force others to give you a ride.
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  9. #339
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    Adrestia Skyborn
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    the point of referencing gw2 is the poster says public content has never worked and players innately cant handle it due to human psychology, and yet it happens just fine in other situations.

    i really dont get what you are saying in the second part. Basically there are people who like/willing to organize things and they basically end up doing it regardless of the circumstances.
    But I never said public content doesn’t work. I pointed out examples of great public content, in fact. I said that one specific type of public content: linear raid zones with no objectives for anyone except the one big group, doesn’t work. GW2 is an MMO-lite with fundamentally different game systems. With BA you’re talking about content that requires a roughly particular content system and where a single person can cause a run-ending wipe. GW2 expects each player to dodge damage on their own and heal themselves, which is why there’s plenty of video of skilled players soloing dungeon bosses that wipe entire parties. No one of any skill level is going to be soloing BA.
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  10. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    Unfortunately for you that not a reportable behavior. You can't force others to let you or keep you in your party and you cannot force others to give you a ride.
    I disagree. People who are toxic like that are up to no good, and should be reported for bad behavior. Toxic people like that are like sponges for awful activity.
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