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  1. #781
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    LycelleD's Avatar
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    Lycelle Deanu
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AuricSeagard View Post
    Out of how many trips total?
    Since I put that build together, 3.. maybe 4 can't remember if the first trip was an otter or the second trip, then it was otter, non, otter
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  2. #782
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    Marcy_Darcy's Avatar
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    Clay Pigeon
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    Balmung
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I've gotten 2 otters within the past week with CWCC and CCCC builds. One otter from each sub.

    It took about a month of sending the subs out every other day or so since the beginning of Feb.
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  3. #783
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    HeavyMetalGod's Avatar
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    Heavymetal Goddess
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  4. #784
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    Vierys Night
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    Midgardsormr
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    Blacksmith Lv 80

    Unable to Understand this Message

    Hello,

    Does anyone know what this message means? I have high favor but am unable to get another anomaly? Is this an RNG element? Trying to figure out what build is optimal for otter farming.

    See message and build below:





    With this same build, I even have a "clear and calm" and yet the same message. Just wondering if i should try to build for more favor or if it's just RNG at this point.

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    Last edited by HadesNight; 03-06-2019 at 07:17 PM. Reason: Adding more images

  5. #785
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    Norri_Matora's Avatar
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    Norri Matora
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by HadesNight View Post
    Hello,

    Does anyone know what this message means? I have high favor but am unable to get another anomaly? Is this an RNG element? Trying to figure out what build is optimal for otter farming.

    See message and build below:

    (Snip)

    (Snip)

    With this same build, I even have a "clear and calm" and yet the same message. Just wondering if i should try to build for more favor or if it's just RNG at this point.

    (Snip)
    Honestly, I don't think any of us have a clear idea on what's causing the exploration of the second anomaly to fail right now. For a while, I personally was thinking it had something to do with Surveillance or Favor being used as an HP value (reduced by weather or by item rarity), the submersible repair condition being too low, or even the weather condition halting the exploration.

    There was a post a couple pages back that had logs recording the repair level, favor/surveillance rating, and weather conditions for every instance of a double anomaly spawn and successful/failed exploration attempt. We're not... seeing a correlation with any of those theories. At this point, we're chalking it up to RNG unless someone has a better idea.
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  6. #786
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    Shugo Kunisaki
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I am very sure thats just rng
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  7. #787
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    AuricSeagard's Avatar
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    Auric Seagard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 80
    With regard to that message, which I call "CSCFIFFE", I've been getting it a lot with my C-U-Y-C build subs, and I've been failing to get otters, even though all my subs' stats are at least at the necessary minimums based on the results posted here. I've linked to a google sheet with my results from the last three test runs of my 12 subs, all with the same CUYC build, in case anyone wants to look for patterns. The one thing I can see is that "CSCFIFFE" happens WAY more often on DSS7 than the other two sectors I've been hitting on the same trip (Wreck of Discovery and Sunken Vault). For the most recent set of runs that came in today, I made sure all the subs were fully repaired across the board before I sent them out (except the Mellow Yellow, which I overlooked). For my next run, which will come in late Friday night, I've changed the sector order to visit DSS7 first; if there is some kind of "wear and tear" going on that might be contributing to all those misses, perhaps going to DSS7 first will reduce the number of them that happen, but notice that even a fully repaired sub got a miss on the first sector visit (Sunglow) so even if full repairs helps increase odds of a hit, that's no guarantee of a successful double hit, as it may be that the sub is taking "damage" just going from the home base to the first sector location. Also note that the third sector to be visited has a lot fewer misses than DSS7 does, even though the ship would be more damaged. So I'm scratching my head a bit. I'm thinking of swapping the Unkiu Stern for a Whale Stern to improve my Retrieval score as maybe that also has a minimum value keeping me from getting otters, but someone said they got an otter with a CWCC build (also 40 retrieval) and a CCCC build (45 retrieval) and I got one myself with my old sub build, a UUUC (50 retrieval.) So possibly I've just been majorly unlucky in my rolls!

    CUYC sub trip data
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    Last edited by AuricSeagard; 03-07-2019 at 01:59 PM. Reason: Fixing typos

  8. 03-08-2019 05:32 AM
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    Wait, so you're telling me UUUC is a viable option for obtaining Otter?! This changes up the game for my current submarines!

  9. #788
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    Norri_Matora's Avatar
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    Norri Matora
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by AuricSeagard View Post
    ... and I got one myself with my old sub build, a UUUC (50 retrieval.) So possibly I've just been majorly unlucky in my rolls!
    Have you observed two anomalies spawning from a UUUC ship in Deep-Sea Site 7 (W) voyage?
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  10. #789
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    AuricSeagard's Avatar
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    Auric Seagard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norri_Matora View Post
    Have you observed two anomalies spawning from a UUUC ship in Deep-Sea Site 7 (W) voyage?

    It was a single anomaly only (Favor 100)

    https://imgur.com/a/ShgYL3g
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  11. #790
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    Limonia's Avatar
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    Elrica Lavandula
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Hello!

    My submersibles are not at level 50 yet (only lvl 10 and 28), but I don't want to build too many parts that I won't be using when it's at level cap, because I'm in a very small FC and it takes quite long as is expensive to build a part.
    So I have a few questions, I hope you can answer them. I've already searched this thread and elswhere, but still couldn't find everything I would like to know.

    - What is the minimum range to reach the highest sectors? For example, if you only want to reach one sector per trip. Range can get very low with different parts and I've read that you need about 20 range to reach the lowest sectors. That would obviously not be enough to even reach the higher ones I suppose.

    - Is 145 surveillance good for a chance at the rarest items? I've read that you need 135 or 145. Does favor influence getting rare items or only the chance of anomalies? So if you would try to get high surveillance for rare items, does favor matter for it?

    - I have two submersibles. Is it good to make one with high surveillance to get rarer items and another one with average stats or high range/retrieval, but less surveillance?

    Thank you. ^^
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