Submersible Information Thread

[T_Moon]

C,U,U,U is inferior in every expect lower serveillance, speed, and favor. How can it be better?

The three stats that matter when looking for the Otter are a surveillance over 135, Speed as high as possible to minimize trip time, and a high favor which is only 90 on this build so you wont always get a second loot item.
Range doesn't matter so long as its enough to reach Deep Sea Site 7 and Retrieval has no impact as the otter so far has never given more then 1 in a trip.

So yes its a terrible build for normal missions, but if your after only otters then I still stay it would be perfectly fine for the mission and is a very cheep sub to build.

[AerisVII]

The three stats that matter when looking for the Otter are a surveillance over 135, Speed as high as possible to minimize trip time, and a high favor which is only 90 on this build so you wont always get a second loot item.
Range doesn't matter so long as its enough to reach Deep Sea Site 7 and Retrieval has no impact as the otter so far has never given more then 1 in a trip.

So yes its a terrible build for normal missions, but if your after only otters then I still stay it would be perfectly fine for the mission and is a very cheep sub to build.

Your words "The three stats that matter when looking for the Otter are a surveillance over 135, Speed as high as possible to minimize trip time, and a high favor which is only 90" Now tell me how is C,U,U,U stats 140,15,100,95,90 is better than C,U,U,C stats 170,30,110,50,110 for otters?

[Norri_Matora]

Keep in mind that one of the reasons that the CCSyC set is edging out over the rest at the moment is due to the high favor rating that's allowing that second anomaly to spawn, followed by its fairly high Speed. We had an interesting report of the CSySySy hull recently that managed to snag an Otter off of a second anomaly:

Being able to spawn that second anomaly effectively doubles the efficiency of any sub that travels to a specific destination. Considering how fast Kamacite Ore is dropping in value, it's definitely worth spending the money for a single Syldra Bow at this point.

[Norri_Matora]

I wanted to ask if a C,U,U,C build has been tested for Otter farming? I have sent these build ones to sector 7 and I can say that 110 favor will do for 2 trys but I'm not sure if 30 retrieval is sufficient.

The CUUC would be a perfectly reasonable ship to use if you want to farm Deep-Sea Site 7 (W) exclusively. With 110 Favor for double anomalies and a blistering 110 Speed, It'll definitely put that 170 Surveillance to good use during its 1 day, 1 hour, and 36 minute voyage. Considering how cheap the ship costs to produce, a single drop will more than pay for itself.



If you're looking to farm three potentially profitable zones in a 2 day trip, another setup to consider would be the UUUC submarine. Meeting the 145 Surveillance requirement and sitting exactly on the 100 Favor stat, it should (in theory) still spawn double anomalies while farming the following route:

Neolith Island (I) > The Cobalt Shoals (K) > Deep-Sea Site 7 (W)



A similar result can be made with a full Coelacanth CCCC build, but the differences would be negligible. The voyage would take 1 day, 19 hours, and 13 minutes, putting it in the 2 day checkup window.

The viability of these last two ships hinges on whether 100 Favor spawns two anomalies or not.

[Thamorian]

I've been trying to get kamacite but it's been kinda low chance of getting them with stats of 120/105/60/85/85, exploring only the 2 zones confirmed to have them., Should I be focusing on different stats to increase my chances of Kamacite ore?

[AuricSeagard]

I've been trying to get kamacite but it's been kinda low chance of getting them with stats of 120/105/60/85/85, exploring only the 2 zones confirmed to have them., Should I be focusing on different stats to increase my chances of Kamacite ore?

I think 120 surveillance is too low to get Kamacite. I don't know what the absolute lowest possible surveillance is, but I do know that with 135 surveillance we found a lot of it with very little trouble.

[Thamorian]

I think 120 surveillance is too low to get Kamacite. I don't know what the absolute lowest possible surveillance is, but I do know that with 135 surveillance we found a lot of it with very little trouble.

Thanks. Ill try boosting surveillance. Do any of the other stats affect kamacite acquisition?

[AuricSeagard]

Thanks. Ill try boosting surveillance. Do any of the other stats affect kamacite acquisition?

If you're just trying to haul ore, a high retrieval stat will bring back larger piles per trip. A higher favor will give you a second chance to acquire the ore from the same sector.

[yosment]

So here below is a few to choose from:

Build Sur/Ret/Sp/Rng/Fav
CUUC: 170 30 110 50 110
CCSC: 150 65 85 90 140
CUUS: 170 30 70 95 120

For my purpose, which is to get rare items like materia VIs and Otter, so if favor of 110 can guarantee a second roll, then CUUC will be my choice. The speed of 110 is way better than the other two builds. The only concern is range of 50 though, but if I only send the submarines to deep 7 then it should work. Any destination beyond deep 7 this build wont do. For example, materia VI farming at the last few destinations needs to be either CCSC or CUUS.