Submersible Information Thread

[Norri_Matora]

It was a single anomaly only (Favor 100)

https://imgur.com/a/ShgYL3g

I guess for a ship that's meant to exclusively target Deep-Sea Site 7 (W), I'll have to favor CUUC then. I didn't see a fit that's viable at 105 Favor and 100 Favor doesn't seem to spawn double anomalies.

Hello!

My submersibles are not at level 50 yet (only lvl 10 and 28), but I don't want to build too many parts that I won't be using when it's at level cap, because I'm in a very small FC and it takes quite long as is expensive to build a part.
So I have a few questions, I hope you can answer them. I've already searched this thread and elswhere, but still couldn't find everything I would like to know.

- What is the minimum range to reach the highest sectors? For example, if you only want to reach one sector per trip. Range can get very low with different parts and I've read that you need about 20 range to reach the lowest sectors. That would obviously not be enough to even reach the higher ones I suppose.

- Is 145 surveillance good for a chance at the rarest items? I've read that you need 135 or 145. Does favor influence getting rare items or only the chance of anomalies? So if you would try to get high surveillance for rare items, does favor matter for it?

- I have two submersibles. Is it good to make one with high surveillance to get rarer items and another one with average stats or high range/retrieval, but less surveillance?

Thank you. ^^

- 64 is the longest distance for a single destination (Stone Temple (AC)).

- 145 is acceptable. It's the minimum value for the Abroader Otter, so we've been focusing on having that as a minimum stat for any subs we build. A stat of 110 Favor influences whether you get a second drop from a sector. The chances of an item being normal or HQ is influenced by Surveillance (they're considered separate item entries in the loot table).

- Kamacite Ore is the only real item that's being harvested in bulk at this time. If you're in need of farming that ore, building a submarine with high Retrieval and a Surveillance of 135 would be a good idea. Otherwise, CCSyC for an all-around ship or a ship dedicated to farming a specific sector would be a better use of your time.


Edit: I've been working with a friend on getting their submersibles up to snuff. While doing so, I'm taking the time to figure out a general progression with regards to fits while reducing waste. The only problem is that I'm looking at it in a vacuum without the regard for schematic accessibility. I'm also going to be favoring a steady progression towards a CCSyC fit.

Rank 1 - SSSS
Rank 15 - UUUS
Rank 17 - UUUU
Rank 35 - CUWC
Rank 45 - CCSyC

A full Unkiu is just... so broken, lmao.

[Ryphen]

Has anyone had this happen yet?

Was one of the CWWC subs I had out hunting for kamacite ore.

[AuricSeagard]

I got another set of results in and put them up on my Google spreadsheet. Repairing all subs to full and hitting DSS7 first did appear to drastically reduce -- but NOT eliminate -- the failures (CSCFIFFE). Out of 12 attempts, 11 subs were able to hit both anomalies successfully. I still did not get any otters though, even though I had favorable weather for some of those trips. I've refitted my subs with the parts I have on hand so that half are CUUC and half are CUSC, and I'm sending them straight out to DSS7 and back, which will take almost exactly one day. I'm wondering if boosting the surveillance even higher might get a better chance for otters. I'll add the data to the sheet when I have it.

[DrWho2010]

finallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy on CUUC build

[yosment]

Is Otter selling at your server?

[Norri_Matora]

Is Otter selling at your server?

It will if you drop your price enough.

[yosment]

It will if you drop your price enough.

If it becomes cheap then there is no point of getting them except for own use...

[LycelleD]

This build is a kamacite beast! 51 in one trip!





Build is CWWC

[DrWho2010]

it's funny how you have a retrieval of 90 yet it still says you have "poor retrieval levels". like do you need over 100 for it not to say that?

[Norri_Matora]

Retrieval is a stat that increases the collection rate, starting from Poor and going to Normal, Above Average, and then Optimal. While I was reading the Airship thread and checking for minimum values for the Iron Voyage drop (110 Surveillance), I couldn't help but notice that some of the voyages coming back were reporting as Optimal Retrieval for the most difficult drop on that map (with Retrieval between 115 to 130).

So, that got me thinking; What if the Optimal Retrieval is in lockstep with minimum Surveillance? Surely there's a fit that could work with that kind of theory.

And... slim pickings, to be honest. With our knowledge of what is required for the Abroader Otter, the distance required for Deep-Sea Site 7 (W), and tying that together with a high Retrieval stat, this is what we get to choose from:



Knowing that a Favor of 105 spawns double anomalies, I'm thinking the only worthwhile contender for consideration might be the CSyWSy build. However, Iron Voyages required an Optimal Retrieval for them to drop 2 instead of 1 for anything less, so it may not be even possible to pump the Retrieval stat high enough to make a double Abroader Otter drop feasible.

Edit: The Submersible thread and the theories/conclusions that we've worked out have given me a better insight into what I'll be doing with regards to Airships as well. It's a little disappointing that a lot of the information was buried and didn't get updated into the OP of that particular thread. However, I would be remiss if I were to say that a lot of the discoveries made there didn't influence what we know here now. There's a couple of airship fits that I'm going to test out and will be reporting the results in that thread too.