Yotsuyu, Fordola, syndrom of "a good writting"? (spoil)

[Beckett]

Well she is being tormented by frequent Echo flashbacks showing her how much of a horrible person she was (or other things, depending on who she meets) and she knows for a fact that her actions were not what won her peoples freedom.

She should, at the very least, be imprisoned for the rest of her life. Instead, she gets to go on adventures with Arenvald while occasionally having reminders of her past misdeads.

Fordola is a monster, and the game keeps asking us to, if not forgive her, at least condone her.

[Nestama]

She should, at the very least, be imprisoned for the rest of her life. Instead, she gets to go on adventures with Arenvald while occasionally having reminders of her past misdeads.

Fordola is a monster, and the game keeps asking us to, if not forgive her, at least condone her.

Wut? When did this happen? In 4.1, she assisted us in fighting Lakshmi and then once that was over, went straight back to prison (I'm also pretty sure she even requested that she go back to prison).

Yup. "It's done. Take me back to my cell."

[Mansion]

Wut? When did this happen? In 4.1, she assisted us in fighting Lakshmi and then once that was over, went straight back to prison (I'm also pretty sure she even requested that she go back to prison).

It's in the Tales of the Storm thing, a serie of short stories around Stormblood, and there's one about Fordola being in an army regiment, being heroic and all. Quite lame in my opinion.

I liked Fordola, precisely because she is a monster. I think I talked about that some time ago and said something I wanted to sound witty like "If you actually feel something for a character, good or bad, then it's a good character". Fordola has a sad background, she grows evil and her only contact to reality is heroic (what she thinks so at least) combat. That's why she was a good soldier for Gaius, then Zenos, and now wherever she has been placed. Otherwise, she is constantly enduring her harsh past and her evil decisions. She's tragic in a way, and she trapped herself in this cycle. I did not feel the game was forcing us to forgive her or anything, she's most likely silenced past 4.1 when they awkwardly showed the "good" within her. I'm ok with that.

While now that we are facing different baddies... Solus is the stereotype of mad funny villain (Joker from Batman etc.), which I find dull. But Varis gained a bit of depth in that context.

[Nestama]

It's in the Tales of the Storm thing, a serie of short stories around Stormblood, and there's one about Fordola being in an army regiment, being heroic and all. Quite lame in my opinion.

I liked Fordola, precisely because she is a monster. I think I talked about that some time ago and said something I wanted to sound witty like "If you actually feel something for a character, good or bad, then it's a good character". Fordola has a sad background, she grows evil and her only contact to reality is heroic (what she thinks so at least) combat. That's why she was a good soldier for Gaius, then Zenos, and now wherever she has been placed. Otherwise, she is constantly enduring her harsh past and her evil decisions. She's tragic in a way, and she trapped herself in this cycle. I did not feel the game was forcing us to forgive her or anything, she's most likely silenced past 4.1 when they awkwardly showed the "good" within her. I'm ok with that.

While now that we are facing different baddies... Solus is the stereotype of mad funny villain (Joker from Batman etc.), which I find dull. But Varis gained a bit of depth in that context.

Ah, I see. So she's basically given the choice to work for the Immortal Flames (life threatening work) and serve out her sentence (likely impossible to clear due to her past actions), or to be put to death. Not exactly "going on adventures with Arenvald" as Beckett worded it. I guess this means we'll be seeing her in 4.55 MSQ.

[Mansion]

I guess this means we'll be seeing her in 4.55 MSQ.

I hope, actually! Back then in 4.3's "cliffhanger", I was sure Fordola would get some love because of Gaius' return. But my hopes are getting thinner: 4.56 will have to deal with a lot of things (the Call, the fight with Zenos, possibly a bit more info on the path to Shadowbringers), I don't see a spot for Fordola. But I could be wrong (and I hope I am!).

[Kazhim]

It's in the Tales of the Storm thing, a serie of short stories around Stormblood, and there's one about Fordola being in an army regiment, being heroic and all. Quite lame in my opinion.

I liked Fordola, precisely because she is a monster. I think I talked about that some time ago and said something I wanted to sound witty like "If you actually feel something for a character, good or bad, then it's a good character". Fordola has a sad background, she grows evil and her only contact to reality is heroic (what she thinks so at least) combat. That's why she was a good soldier for Gaius, then Zenos, and now wherever she has been placed. Otherwise, she is constantly enduring her harsh past and her evil decisions. She's tragic in a way, and she trapped herself in this cycle. I did not feel the game was forcing us to forgive her or anything, she's most likely silenced past 4.1 when they awkwardly showed the "good" within her. I'm ok with that.

While now that we are facing different baddies... Solus is the stereotype of mad funny villain (Joker from Batman etc.), which I find dull. But Varis gained a bit of depth in that context.

well for solus, it deserve to entertain me instead to be original, so i wont ask more. Yes for Varis, which is funny in a way, dam his full armor is just so stupid, when there is the "pourparler" with league of eorzéa, i find him ridiculous. They should make him more simple like solus, he would gain in charism i think. And i think the same way for fordola, while caracter like lyse make me really sick to be stupidly dumb and useless.

[Beckett]

Wut? When did this happen? In 4.1, she assisted us in fighting Lakshmi and then once that was over, went straight back to prison (I'm also pretty sure she even requested that she go back to prison).

Yup. "It's done. Take me back to my cell."

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Edit: Whoops, should have fully caught up on the thread.