Baldesion Arsenal Feedback

[Miminming]

play in jp server and manage to clear it yesterday, surprising the ban-aid fix of stabilizer make it faaaaarrr more better before it was always first arrive get it but now it's mpre stabilizer or luck(will a stable node appear near you or not)

i jump from one island to another a lot but never see a premade, they ussually just PUG your way through, and the PUG still very active atm

and they ussually sacrife regardless of job... if they ask NICELY

now that i clear it everything become a good memory...

[Xellos2099]

today experienced something semi crazy, portal got sniped, sniper returned and try to go in again during support fate again

[Zombiee]

Gutted I can't get into a premade cause of completion requirements and that I got the bad ending

[Rhus]

Here I thought yoshi actually wanted people to use them. Didn't he ask the discord groups permission to implement them first?

[Grimr]

I have to be blunt here. Yoshida Ba never should of been attached to eureka. It should of been a duty finder from the get go. I have heard plenty of stories about portal sniping and simply detaching it from eureka would solve everything. This eurekean experiment has to end. There is alrdy thread about not wanting another eureka. There are plenty of other things to do outside ff14 "box"

On a related note Erueka pyros should of been the last land to visit. Hydatos feels like a tack on mess only having 12 nms and they drop a mere 5-10 crystals.

[Epidendrum]

I can't speak for elemental or mana data centres, but I will talk about Gaia where I am from. Trolling premades, virtually unheard of here. Majority of attempts are pure PUGs during peak hours. Premades usually limit themselves to 1 or 2 groups of 8 - mostly tanks and healers in order to ensure enough for a full run. Inside the arsenal they will split up to ensure each team has enough tanks and healers. They are aware that having a premade of 48 - 56 is exceedingly difficult to get together.

In all runs that I have seen, parties usually form while waiting for portals to stabilize, or once people get into the arsenal. For those wondering how pure PUGs actually have a decent chance of success here in Gaia, it's not that the JP community are better at pugging(never played in NA/EU or Tonberry, so I can't compare), it's not that majority of non-JP on Gaia are fluent Japanese speakers (although in Alexander, non-JP who are not fluent are a rarity); the real reason is the innate culture. I believe majority of players in EU/NA/JP are just normal folk who want to achieve an in game goal, whatever that may be. However, innate real life cultural differences affects the general culture of their data centre and by virtue of that - how they view and interact with their community. Recall how JP in FFXIV quite reliably do duty finder runs for savage raids and extreme primals. We have macros with very little deviation from the common strategy.

Same in the arsenal. We expect first timers in each run. We are willing to teach. First timers speak up, we post the macro, give them a few minutes to digest it, place markers then ask if anyone has further questions before the boss is pulled. People tend to follow instructions to the letter here. As long as it's close enough to the standard accepted strategy, obey the macro posted, do not question it. If both sides have agreed to pull Art and Owain at ET19:30, people obey it and don't question it. Maintaining group harmony matters a great deal in Gaia, much more than personal achievement. Not because we are selfless, but because this is an mmorpg, we can't achieve most of our goals alone. The ironic thing is that a lot of the macros for raids etc used in Gaia, are translated from NA/EU strategies.

Gaia's culture is that "everything can be pugged successfully". We may never be world first but we still clear eventually. A friend from the same server (Alexander) cleared her ultimate weapon ultimate a couple of weeks ago, after months of pugging learning parties at increasing stages of progress. So when we look at the arsenal, we say to ourselves, "looks a bit daunting but I can pug that and clear eventually." People in Gaia don't really have strong feelings about most content, we either do it or ignore it.

I have never seen people not help the support fate. I hear or read that on Elemental or in NA, people do that. Do they really? In Gaia, we help the support fate without fail, for many reasons. (1) One day it may be our own turn in the arsenal, (2) need the exp to level our EL, (3) collecting lockboxes and crystals for a relic weapon, so why not? It is still an EL 60 NM equivalent. (4) they want to be in the final 8 to fight absolute virtue and ozma. Few, if any premades at that point, so first to a portal gets in. No hard feelings, just try again next time if you don't get in. Cheer for those who got in; what goes around, comes around.

Notice that none of the reasons are altruistic. We in Gaia just recognise that it makes logical sense to cooperate rather than be spiteful.

I see a lot of negative comments from NA/EU/Au/Nz, (much more than the JP and non-JP from Gaia) it's fine to dislike things, but is it really that difficult to cooperate with most of your data centre without forming premades?

[Brill_]

I've given up. Would love to do BA, but sitting in the discord for hours waiting for group while not being able to do anything else is not fun. I still wonder how dev sit there and think "restrictive entry requirements will be a great idea!"

[Xellos2099]

I've given up. Would love to do BA, but sitting in the discord for hours waiting for group while not being able to do anything else is not fun. I still wonder how dev sit there and think "restrictive entry requirements will be a great idea!"

It is true it is pretty annoying. But if all you really want is to clear it once for the mount it is not that bad. Then again for em i use a dual monitor setup so if i intend to do a run soon i open discord in one screen and i made sure w/e i do i can leave right away like gathering/ crafting/ or soloing in pyros. You can also ask to use a raid channel to form your own team. Tons of the people want to learn BA but they don't want to host a run. At least in my data center discord, one can borrow one of the raid channel and setup a learning run. In the end it is how much you want to do it. I am personally done with BA since i got my 10 run achievement, inion and all the weapon but a complete run is still quite profitable.

[Xellos2099]

The one I'm in has no bot to announce anything, we have a bot only to apply tags to show what role we are and what we want to do/where we're at in BA and when you're looking for members, you @ those tags.

The people who don't like the discord fall into one of two categories generally; 1. People who are unable to hear or speak and people who are unable to use discord due to lack of a nearby PC or phone and 2. people who want an easy way in and don't care if they are cutting in an established line, people who have cut in said established line and are unwanted in organized communities, and lastly people who just take some weird issue with discord for whatever personal reason. I do suspect there are a few people in the discords who tell snipers where to be and when, but doing anything to these people unprovoked and without proof would just be unfair.

Point is, the one I'm in has a bunch of randoms, just as random as anywhere in-game and anyone is welcome to enter.

My question is, how many times does a person have to snipe before it simply becomes harassment or nuisance behavior by the ToS. We have a few who have basically attained meme status for sniping.

EDIT: On the above, category 1 is understandable and I think we should make some sort of adjustment in such a case.

I recall we got a few problem with the stablizer user the past few days and less people want to do support siince the sniping rate is higher than before.

[Kuroka]

Or ppl that just dont wanna waste time on organizing things that arent ment to be organized and would rather enjoy having random fun... lol