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    Player
    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Flame Colonel
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisek View Post
    Tonberry (Elemental[JP] DC) here. The Japanese also use discord (or other means outside the game) to organise runs, but PUGs over here are also very very prevalant, to the point where you'll have 3 to 4 people camping per portal during primetime. And no, most people aren't happy with the entry requirements. To quote somebody on the JP forums 'I want to fight the bosses inside the dungeon, not the players outside.'. And as I've said in a previous post, portal stealing/sniping are RAMPANT over here. Everybody is miserable, and this whole shenanigan has brought out the toxicity in both EN and JP players alike in my datacentre.
    That made no sense.. if you don't have 6 tan k you can't even do the rooms
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    Belias
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    actually you can, i dont know how they do it but theres only 5 tank tonight and we manage to do the room... i must say the party withouth tank are super to do it...
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    actually you can, i dont know how they do it but theres only 5 tank tonight and we manage to do the room... i must say the party withouth tank are super to do it...
    Probably high defense dps with platebearer with really careful dps on not to pull hate and top class healer? Which again, require some specific setup
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    Raisek's Avatar
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    Kaiser Bloodriver
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That made no sense.. if you don't have 6 tan k you can't even do the rooms
    Pray tell, what made no sense? If our PUG didn't have at least 6 tanks, we just progress till we get the 3 chests after Raiden and call it quits. If not, all PUGs in Elemental are basically capable of reaching Ozma at least.
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    Danielle Epidendrum
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    Alexander
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Does anybody have any insight into how the JP side is handling the implementation? I don't really care much for the argument of "oh JP is more capable of pugging, so yada yada yada..." - that's not what I'm wondering. I am curious is JP has similiar complaints about the entry requirements with the level of communication needed.
    From Gaia [JP] DC, Alexander server here. Both discord groups and pugs are clearing it. Most runs are a mix of both, usually I see clears based on 1 or 2 premade groups of 8 and the rest are PUGs. Pure PUG groups have cleared the arsenal. In general, not many complaints here. Majority of players have watched guides on the mechanics. Players new to it will state that they are new and will be taught. I've have not seen instances of multiple people camping a portal. I would say the response in Gaia DC to the arsenal is moderately positive.

    I can't speak much for the other data centres but I can say this - Elemental DC does have a significantly different culture compared to other JP data centres; perhaps due to the demographics, I can't really be sure.
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Epidendrum View Post
    I can't speak much for the other data centres but I can say this - Elemental DC does have a significantly different culture compared to other JP data centres; perhaps due to the demographics, I can't really be sure.
    Translation: Elemental has Tonberry - the unofficial Australian server.
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    Anna Ruthven
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 80
    BA Feedback: The only thing I dislike about arsenal is that it's annoying and complicated to get in and causes endless drama among the users here, remember Dynamis in FFXI? Remember the Phantom/Timeless Hourglass?

    Draw inspiration from that.

    For those who aren't familiar with Dynamis, imagine if NA, EU, and JP were all on the same servers and there were 6 instances for BA per server, and you had to coordinate with 40-50 other linkshells of varying languages to figure out what zone was going to be open and when THEN you had to spend 1m to get in and hope you don't wipe. That's about how early days of Dynamis were. In hindsight, I do kinda miss meeting the occasional JP person I could communicate with. Was fun. =/
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    Please rework BA so it is accessed from outside Eureka, but requires Eureka to be finished to enter. The Drama isn't good for the community.

    Only good thing is with in 4 weeks this content will be getting old and easier for people with less time to tackle it.
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    Please rework BA so it is accessed from outside Eureka, but requires Eureka to be finished to enter. The Drama isn't good for the community.
    You know, if this could have been tackled with no limits on entry it actually would have been great for the community. We've met so many people with this but its all over shadowed by the drama.
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalRainbow View Post
    The Drama isn't good for the community.
    Yes, the drama... so very like 2004 to 2006 era FFXI all over again.

    Only element we are missing now is the Linkshell to linkshell mudslinging episodes.
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