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  1. #241
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    AnnaMolly's Avatar
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    Anna Ruthven
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The only thing about the instance itself that I feel is really poorly designed is how needlessly punishing Acceleration Bomb is.

    Just make it kill the player who screws it up, rather endanger his entire group.

    It's literally the only reason I haven't gotten a clear yet because there's always that guy who doesn't know how to resolve it properly and kills everybody.
    Think that's what got me this morning, still I'm proud I made it to Ozma, and we got him to 46%. I'm usually a klutz so...lol I accomplished something just with that.
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  2. #242
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    Mizunoko's Avatar
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    Fox Deity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    1) You cannot rely on a premade. NA players are screaming DON'T BE ENTITLED, YOU DON'T OWN THE PORTALS and sniping spots from teams who are just trying to prog together while simultaneously flexing their entitlement expecting that team to hold their hand, carry them and explain mechanics. Taking a groups tank or healer off them by rushing portals when they realise groups are attempting to clear and bringing their progress attempt to a complete stop is, understandably, making people hugely upset.

    I think it goes both ways, yes i things its wrong and rude to not try to find a group before going in and just ruining the experience for everyone else, however i also think it's not right for the pre-made groups who actually do act like they have a right to claim all the portals, that in itself is defined as entitlement. Both sides are wrong, both sides need to grow up. This is as square enix/yoshi p described a PUBLIC dungeon. So anyone has the right to take any portal as soon as they see it. From what i see is that the fault here is with square enix for not thinking this through first and realizing this could become a huge issue for the community. All we can do is just give feedback and hope square enix listens to what we said and makes some sort of use out of it to better things.
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    Last edited by Mizunoko; 02-26-2019 at 12:43 PM.

  3. #243
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    Anna Ruthven
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    We had a guy come in with the support party today who wasn't aware we had an organized group, he joined discord, apologized and explained. Pretty chill dude, hope he hangs around.
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  4. #244
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Oh blue gartr forum how I miss you.

    For reference : https://www.bluegartr.com/ffxiadvmap.php
    ...Right???

    There were days I would unfailingly log onto those forums several times a day just to catch up on entertainment galore.

    The dramas were so intense, they literally needed episodes just so that people could keep up.
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  5. #245
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaMolly View Post
    We had a guy come in with the support party today who wasn't aware we had an organized group, he joined discord, apologized and explained. Pretty chill dude, hope he hangs around.
    This is a pretty common thing
    If they are willing to join discord and co-operate its fine but if not generally just let them die
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  6. #246
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    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Bard Lv 70
    Last night doing an ozma run some sniper got in with support and proceed to mess thing up by placing sacre soil and shadowflare doing AV and also have someone other than tank keep voking the AV. I personally think it is sniper trying to ruin the run but have no real proof but ozma clear people should know better than that
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  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    I think it goes both ways, yes i things its wrong and rude to not try to find a group before going in and just ruining the experience for everyone else, however i also think it's not right for the pre-made groups who actually do act like they have a right to claim all the portals, that in itself is defined as entitlement. Both sides are wrong, both sides need to grow up. This is as square enix/yoshi p described a PUBLIC dungeon. So anyone has the right to take any portal as soon as they see it. From what i see is that the fault here is with square enix for not thinking this through first and realizing this could become a huge issue for the community. All we can do is just give feedback and hope square enix listens to what we said and makes some sort of use out of it to better things.
    The thing is: Sniper themselves would not organize the normal run. There are plenty of instance with no raid group and when ufo is kill no one would go in. More than 1 person here admit they snipe because they don;t want to wait 1-2 hours like everyone else who want to clear? Do you know what that sound like? I don't want to bring politic into this but this sound awfully like what is going on at USA.
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    Last edited by Xellos2099; 02-26-2019 at 04:44 PM.

  8. #248
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Last night doing an ozma run some sniper got in with support and proceed to mess thing up by placing sacre soil and shadowflare doing AV and also have someone other than tank keep voking the AV. I personally think it is sniper trying to ruin the run but have no real proof but ozma clear people should know better than that
    There's also a very real issue of underqualified players jumping into AV/Ozma kill groups in Discord when they haven't even reached those fights yet.

    They're noticeably rougher then the previous bosses in regards to how much damage is going out unavoidable and otherwise.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 02-26-2019 at 05:42 PM.

  9. #249
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    Physic's Avatar
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    Bladed Arms
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    Balmung
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    The thing is: Sniper themselves would not organize the normal run. There are plenty of instance with no raid group and when ufo is kill no one would go in. More than 1 person here admit they snipe because they don;t want to wait 1-2 hours like everyone else who want to clear? Do you know what that sound like? I don't want to bring politic into this but this sound awfully like what is going on at USA.
    "the sniper" is who the content was designed for, random open world player who wants to attempt content. Yes, there is supposes to be a number of skilled organizer types doing most of the leadership activities. (organizing parties, explaining fights, etc) but a decent number of people in the instance are supposed to be random players, 60+ who want to get some loot and fight strong dangerous bosses
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  10. #250
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    Nutritious Delicious
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 54
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    So far *knock on wood*, this is not something I have really seen on Aether data center. That's not to say that no one hasn't entered a portal solo, but for the most parts groups seem to be mostly getting in together and (pre) coordinating on a Discord channel. I've not seen anyone be nasty about thinking they own portals, or the other side claiming people don't own portals.

    The problem happens when everyone gets into a Shouting war with everyone else and the Salt is so deep on both sides that even the oceans are a fresh water source. Some of the pre-made teams have a Only let the leaders shout or if you incite more drama we won't invite you again status. There a few common portal 'snipers' as it were that know the fights and participate fully through the entire instance. They're not there to grief they're there to get in and do the dungeon. The problem comes when people take a portal with the intent of immediately leaving so the people going inside 'get bent'. Those are the griefers and the actual issue. They aren't there to do the content, they had no intent on doing it at all, they are there griefing players that are there to do the content because for no other reason than you don't pay my sub.
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