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[BluCross]

What are the differences between JP and NA/EU that Yoshi was mentioning?

Problems pointed out by the JP community are the pretty much the same.
The only difference is that the biggest complaint was how there was a "true ending" after clearing BA.

[Physic]

Problems pointed out by the JP community are the pretty much the same.
The only difference is that the biggest complaint was how there was a "true ending" after clearing BA.

from what i heard jp have substantially less problems doing the content, they realize that getting in is mostly a free for all, and do most of the organization after entering the arsenal. The event fires often, with no need for 2 hour organization.


this isnt to say no one is salty about portals, or how difficult pre organzing is, but its no where near what it is here, and their completions are much higher than here.

[alimdia]

from what i heard jp have substantially less problems doing the content, they realize that getting in is mostly a free for all, and do most of the organization after entering the arsenal. The event fires often, with no need for 2 hour organization.


this isnt to say no one is salty about portals, or how difficult pre organzing is, but its no where near what it is here, and their completions are much higher than here.

You have heard wrong, JP has far more people trolling premades than NA/EU does. I wouldn't be surprised if NA/EU ends up with as many clears as JP instead of them being 10x ahead of us.

Try recruiting within an instance and see how bad it goes, it's pretty much impossible to clear with 55 complete wildcards that might or might not know mechs, might or might not wipe the entire raid, and no raise so healers can't carry the run like usual 24 man runs.

[Epidendrum]

I can't speak for elemental or mana data centres, but I will talk about Gaia where I am from. Trolling premades, virtually unheard of here. Majority of attempts are pure PUGs during peak hours. Premades usually limit themselves to 1 or 2 groups of 8 - mostly tanks and healers in order to ensure enough for a full run. Inside the arsenal they will split up to ensure each team has enough tanks and healers. They are aware that having a premade of 48 - 56 is exceedingly difficult to get together.

In all runs that I have seen, parties usually form while waiting for portals to stabilize, or once people get into the arsenal. For those wondering how pure PUGs actually have a decent chance of success here in Gaia, it's not that the JP community are better at pugging(never played in NA/EU or Tonberry, so I can't compare), it's not that majority of non-JP on Gaia are fluent Japanese speakers (although in Alexander, non-JP who are not fluent are a rarity); the real reason is the innate culture. I believe majority of players in EU/NA/JP are just normal folk who want to achieve an in game goal, whatever that may be. However, innate real life cultural differences affects the general culture of their data centre and by virtue of that - how they view and interact with their community. Recall how JP in FFXIV quite reliably do duty finder runs for savage raids and extreme primals. We have macros with very little deviation from the common strategy.

Same in the arsenal. We expect first timers in each run. We are willing to teach. First timers speak up, we post the macro, give them a few minutes to digest it, place markers then ask if anyone has further questions before the boss is pulled. People tend to follow instructions to the letter here. As long as it's close enough to the standard accepted strategy, obey the macro posted, do not question it. If both sides have agreed to pull Art and Owain at ET19:30, people obey it and don't question it. Maintaining group harmony matters a great deal in Gaia, much more than personal achievement. Not because we are selfless, but because this is an mmorpg, we can't achieve most of our goals alone. The ironic thing is that a lot of the macros for raids etc used in Gaia, are translated from NA/EU strategies.

Gaia's culture is that "everything can be pugged successfully". We may never be world first but we still clear eventually. A friend from the same server (Alexander) cleared her ultimate weapon ultimate a couple of weeks ago, after months of pugging learning parties at increasing stages of progress. So when we look at the arsenal, we say to ourselves, "looks a bit daunting but I can pug that and clear eventually." People in Gaia don't really have strong feelings about most content, we either do it or ignore it.

I have never seen people not help the support fate. I hear or read that on Elemental or in NA, people do that. Do they really? In Gaia, we help the support fate without fail, for many reasons. (1) One day it may be our own turn in the arsenal, (2) need the exp to level our EL, (3) collecting lockboxes and crystals for a relic weapon, so why not? It is still an EL 60 NM equivalent. (4) they want to be in the final 8 to fight absolute virtue and ozma. Few, if any premades at that point, so first to a portal gets in. No hard feelings, just try again next time if you don't get in. Cheer for those who got in; what goes around, comes around.

Notice that none of the reasons are altruistic. We in Gaia just recognise that it makes logical sense to cooperate rather than be spiteful.

I see a lot of negative comments from NA/EU/Au/Nz, (much more than the JP and non-JP from Gaia) it's fine to dislike things, but is it really that difficult to cooperate with most of your data centre without forming premades?

[Kuroka]

So its come to that, nice... lol

[Mixt]

And meanwhile i'm over here bashing my head against the wall, unable to even enter the place.

When you have to rely on a third party website to even be able to get into the content you know there is a problem.

Two weeks of trying, only gotten enough people to try two times in that timespan, and both attempts ended either at or before the first boss due to one random idiot trying to speedrun it like a normal dungeon.

And since i don't use Discord myself, welp, that's that.

In other words, i'm locked out of the content.

I'm about ready to throw my arms in the air and give up.

I'm not even fighting the mobs, i'm fighting the rest of the playerbase and losing badly due to unwillingness to resort to underhanded measures or out of game voice chats.

[Aida_Enna]

And since i don't use Discord myself, welp, that's that.

If you don't mind me asking, why don't you use Discord?

My friends haven't been able to get into a Discord

Most people shout the Aether BA discord link in every instance whenever someone asks. If they don't have it, I can message it to you. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to just post it here or not.

[Kuroka]

I know your Pain :/

[AnnaMolly]

I quite honestly don't believe BA was intended to be beaten as quickly as it was, SE just didn't take into account people might organize on Discord.

BA seems like it was intended to be something long and dragged out till 5.0

[PW366]

Never Had A Dream Come True

- all player gold tier "I Don’t Want to Believe" grants buff "Aetherially Primed Assisted 3 hrs"
- random "Duty Action: Aetherially Primed (buff)" to 48 players after Ovni's defeat (like bunnies FATE)
- players can use "Duty Action: Aetherially Primed (buff)" to self/party/others (for BA node)
- after 48-56 players in BA kill Photo-Ozma (or every boss), players with "Aetherially Primed Assist" buff get rewards (like Eureka Fragment)
- new achievement for Assist

im a toxic hydratos, but not fair assists no rewards.

/say {please ignored that}<t>{if you would be so kind}
/faceplam
/say {Wisdom of Breathtaker}{Swift L}
/yell {Good Game}{Eureka}