Baldesion Arsenal and new ToS Combo

[XiXiQ]

Pray tell me when FFXI did implement an instance system that people would enter like this on an individual basis ?

That would be the whole of Eureka so far. It's no surprise the last part works the same. Stop trying to cram a square peg into a round hole.

[Eloah]

Players created this enviroment not SE.
Im honestly sick and tired of seeing people make threads about this and that trying to blame SE for players being hostile to each other.Thats a personal choice not something SE has forced on players.
I dont get how society has gotten to this stage where people look to throw the blame anywhere but themselves for their own behaviour.

You aren't incorrect, this is a player made issue. However, because SE recently "updated" their ToS they exacerbated the issue. They basically made it so that someone could percieve something as "harmful" and report others. And if the GM overseeing that incident votes in favor of the reporter, the reportee might not even be aware they did anything, since it wasn't against their normal gameplay.

Basically, prior to the update, the person being reported was the "troll". Now the person doing the reporting could be the "troll", by taking something "out of context", when that isn't the case.

[Rockette]

I think what would help is an actual appeal system or just improved customer support from SE. The threat that banned is banned you will never get to talk to anyone or show your side is making this even more nasty.

Even on the front page today, someone got banned with the email worded as an infraction happened on a day they weren't online. I think they ought to be able to say, well hang on, that's not right.

I think if SE feel they need to step up their moderating they need to step up their customer support as well.

[Penthea]

Even on the front page today, someone got banned with the email worded as an infraction happened on a day they weren't online. I think they ought to be able to say, well hang on, that's not right.

They weren't banned, they were given a warning.

As for the date not matching up to their playing habits, this could be SE stating things in server time. The player could be in a timezone that is several hours ahead or behind.

Also with such little information about this, we can't really use this as an example of either the player's behaviour or SE's GM service.

[Beckett]

Also with such little information about this, we can't really use this as an example of either the player's behaviour or SE's GM service.

And that's the problem, isn't it? Assuming the player is being truthful, we can get a mark on our account and not even be told the reason why.

[Penthea]

And that's the problem, isn't it? Assuming the player is being truthful, we can get a mark on our account and not even be told the reason why.

Jumping the gun a bit. That player would have an email going into more detail about the violation. The warning in the game is likely there to only draw attention to the fact that the account has a warning. But not everyone thinks to check their inbox, which is probably why that player made a thread.

It also could be an automated system that flagged that player's account. Someone in my fc had their account flagged for suspicious activity despite the fact that they did nothing wrong. The flag was lifted in a few days. Sometimes these automated systems give a false positive.

Again we know little to nothing about that player who posted that thread so it's hardly constructive to dwell on it.

[Alucard135]

This is the housing shortage all over again. Square-Enix develops a terrible system and players blame other players over it. When a player owns an empty house and you can't buy a house, that is not the house owner's fault. That is SE's fault for making a bad system where housing is limited.

That sucks, and I absolutely feel sympathy for your BLM friend, as well as everyone in the premade who wanted to do the content together. But the Warrior is not at fault. No matter how tempting it is to to blame the obvious target, there is absolutely nothing in-game that said the WAR didn't have every right to click that portal and join the instance. Every ounce of blame should be hurled towards SE for creating a system where this can happen.

It's true, everyone has a right to the portals. But the premades don't join an instance and claim it as their on like they own the land. If there's a group already that that wants to do BA, then we just simply leave. If they didn't and still tried to forcefully claim the instance, then they're disrupting the gameplay of the others that are there and deserve what comes to them. People have the right to join a PF that they met its requirements by the game system. But should they join knowing they will only cause problems to the group?

On the other hand, you see an instance where people don't bother with BA. When Ovni dies, all portals are open and no one touches them with a 10 foot pole except maybe 4-5 that were curious. The moment a premade group joins and the group finds out that no one is doing BA in the instance and portals are up, suddenly people wanna snipe the portals hoping to be carried. Why didn't those that intended to snipe the portals say anything before hand then? They have a right to the portal, so why keep quiet till Ovni dies and then snatch the portal if it's their right? Here the snipers are also disrupting the gameplay of others. And both cases deserve to be reported.

There are other cases where you have a right to do something, but you shouldn't do it since you'll only be causing problems to others. Like joining a savage clear party while you still don't know half the mechanics (and I've encountered some who did that in O12s thinking they can easily do HW2 just be knowing HW1 and the constantly died at archive all and wiped us at times). You have the right to join a party that you satisfy its requirements. But should you do so knowing you'll cause troubles to the people in it?

[Rockette]

The moment a premade group joins and the group finds out that no one is doing BA in the instance and portals are up, suddenly people wanna snipe the portals hoping to be carried. Why didn't those that intended to snipe the portals say anything before hand then? They have a right to the portal, so why keep quiet till Ovni dies and then snatch the portal if it's their right? Here the snipers are also disrupting the gameplay of others. And both cases deserve to be reported.

I mean, that's the funniest part isn't it. People who are so angry at the premades yet are unwilling to go in with non organised groups. We watched a group of people try to rally everyone into entering the portals because "screw the discord". They went in and all left immediately because they didn't have any healers.

???

This content hasn't been designed to be clear-able without some level of organisation, unfortunately.

[Alucard135]

This content hasn't been designed to be clear-able without some level of organisation, unfortunately.

It was't. And with the warnings and all the talk about it being a difficult content, one would logically assume that there has to be some sort of coordination. But people still can get lucky and get a good party composition in some cases if they were to join in masses. But in all the ones I tried to join that way, I never got more than two full parties. A lot are afraid of joining out of fear of deleveling. But let them hear there's a premade....the fear is gone and it's time to snatch a portal.

[AnnaMolly]

The first time, you'd likely be offered a link to the discord to simply join. If you keep doing that to spite people, it's called griefing, and it's reportable.

EDIT: This was a response to another post and the forum didn't reflect that for whatever reason.