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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson View Post
    Add to that Doma's liberation and restoration and, to a lesser degree, Ala Mhigo's as well, and the cumulative effects of all these events would certainly influence the balance. Still, I doubt these events alone could tip the scales so radically as to cause a Flood of Light. No, I suspect there's far more to it. Were Elidibus to be destroyed indefinitely, that could very well be the push that could start a Flood. And how does it all tie in with Black Rose and the final Calamity, exactly? That also could be any number of things. But I'm almost positive that the catalyst that sets things over the brink will be the confrontation with Elidibus when the next bit of story comes out.
    But that's just it, the Ascians goal is chaos is it not? Before the WoL arrived, Doma and Ala Mhigo were nations in order. Repressed and beaten, but they obeyed. The WoL changed that, plunged Doma into war, even greatly expanding the conflict to include the tribes of the Steppe and The Conderdatacy. The WoL has turned order into chaos, and now Ala Mhigo is now on the frontline of two massive armies. If anything, the WoL has been serving Zodiark's goals of chaos and tipping the balance in the opposite direction since ending the Dragonsong War. The Ascians may control the Empire, but what the Empire wants is order. The recent gassing attempts against the Imperial dissidents should be harming Zodiark's goal of chaos, right? The WoL opposing the Empire is not creating peace, even if it's for the greater good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    But that's just it, the Ascians goal is chaos is it not? Before the WoL arrived, Doma and Ala Mhigo were nations in order. Repressed and beaten, but they obeyed. The WoL changed that, plunged Doma into war, even greatly expanding the conflict to include the tribes of the Steppe and The Conderdatacy. The WoL has turned order into chaos, and now Ala Mhigo is now on the frontline of two massive armies. If anything, the WoL has been serving Zodiark's goals of chaos and tipping the balance in the opposite direction since ending the Dragonsong War. The Ascians may control the Empire, but what the Empire wants is order. The recent gassing attempts against the Imperial dissidents should be harming Zodiark's goal of chaos, right? The WoL opposing the Empire is not creating peace, even if it's for the greater good.
    I think you're looking at things from the wrong lens. The Empire itself is sowing the Chaos. People can only be brutalized for so long before they tire of it and go to war against thier oppressors the WoL was just in the right place at the right time to inspire them. "Fear only keeps people down until one person no longer fears." Yes they rebelled against tyranny and oppression however the WoL has also been spending time and effort in restoring the beleaguered lands including Doma that's not spreading Chaos that's spreading order.

    Tyranny and Oppression are the very epitome of Chaos. Mass destruction of lives again Chaos. in stopping these things things are brought to Order. and there will never be peace as long as the empire continues to function as it does. just as there will never be peace between the beast tribes and the rest of Eorzea however smaller conflicts are the natural course of life in general. so in the end the WoL is creating peace but for peace to happen there needs to be war and a clear victor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidalutz View Post

    Tyranny and Oppression are the very epitome of Chaos. Mass destruction of lives again Chaos. in stopping these things things are brought to Order. and there will never be peace as long as the empire continues to function as it does. just as there will never be peace between the beast tribes and the rest of Eorzea however smaller conflicts are the natural course of life in general. so in the end the WoL is creating peace but for peace to happen there needs to be war and a clear victor.
    Control is a form of Order. Breaking oppression is a form of chaos. Rebellion and Freedom are just forms of chaos. The state of absolute freedom is a state of total chaos.

    op·pres·sion
    /əˈpreSHən/

    noun
    prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
    "a region shattered by oppression and killing"
    synonyms: persecution, abuse, maltreatment, ill treatment, tyranny, despotism, repression, suppression, subjection, subjugation, enslavement, exploitation; More
    the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control.

    or·der
    /ˈôrdər/

    noun
    a state in which the laws and rules regulating the public behavior of members of a community are observed and authority is obeyed.

    cha·os

    noun
    complete disorder and confusion.

    antonyms: order, orderliness
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