In regards to the "Warrior of Darkness"; how far is too far?

[Kaedan]

From the trailer, we can surmise a few things:

1) Some sort of calamity has happened. Maybe not "the" calamity, but something really bad that causes lots of fire and destruction.
2) We know that the cause was that we tipped the balance too far to the light.
3) The warrior of light we see at the beginning seems to either have lost their memory, or are from another world, because they only learn about the jobs they've been and what they have done through the Echo.
4) Master Matoya has taken over Y'shtola's body. She talks about "our friend" having "gone somewhere" and that she will have to "hold the line" until they return. Now, she could be talking about Y'shtola (who's soul has gone missing), or she's talking about the warrior of light.
5) Urianger talks about "history needing to be rewritten".

So my guess is that some nasty calmity happens and nearly everything is destroyed. Our character (the warrior of light) has to somehow either travel back in time or perhaps "side step" to another world/dimension (much like the Warriors of Darkness did in HW). We then have to become the Warrior of Darkness, which probably won't involve mass murder or anything, but will likely involve some "questionable" things and maybe even reversing some heroic acts we accomplished as WoL. We may even end up fighting ourselves if it involves time travel, who knows.

Then once we restore balance, we'd be able to return to our own time/world/dimension. Lots of holes still, so much is up in the air.

[Iscah]

From the trailer, we can surmise a few things:

I think you're misinterpreting some things - or at least interpreting them in a more specific way than they could be intended.

1) Some sort of calamity has happened. Maybe not "the" calamity, but something really bad that causes lots of fire and destruction.

The "fire and destruction", unless you're talking about Urianger and Y'shtola's scene, seems to be the Ghimlyt Dark battlefield.

The bigger indicators of some kind of Light-aspected calamity are the strangely-lit wasteland where the WoL is, and the manifestation of Light-aspected monsters.

2) We know that the cause was that we tipped the balance too far to the light.

The likely cause of it all is tipping the balance, but we can't actually be sure at this point that it's "our fault".

From the scene with Solus and Varis, it seems that Solus is scheming something involving the Black Rose and, from memory, some kind of Light-aspected effect on it.

3) The warrior of light we see at the beginning seems to either have lost their memory, or are from another world, because they only learn about the jobs they've been and what they have done through the Echo.

I don't get that impression at all. He seems to be having flashbacks, Echo-visions of his own past, but that doesn't tell us he's lost his memory. It could just be a fancy story-telling device for the trailer showing us "how we got here".

If anything, I feel like the taunting gremlin would say different things if he was struggling to remember who he was.

4) Master Matoya has taken over Y'shtola's body. She talks about "our friend" having "gone somewhere" and that she will have to "hold the line" until they return. Now, she could be talking about Y'shtola (who's soul has gone missing), or she's talking about the warrior of light.

It's likely that Matoya is somehow in Y'shtola's body, but the details are still entirely unclear. Is Matoya in control? Is Y'shtola in there as well? Is the whole thing a deliberate misdirection?

Another possibility is that Y'shtola has returned, but at some point (probably after that) Matoya has willingly sacrificed her lifeforce to keep Y'shtola alive - and ended up in some kind of two-souls-in-one-body arrangement. We've seen it happen before in this story.

5) Urianger talks about "history needing to be rewritten".

You've got your quotes crossed. Urianger's line is about accepting or denying a foretold fate.

It's the mystery voiceover person who says history needs to be - not quite "rewritten", but "unwritten".

[Kaedan]

The "fire and destruction", unless you're talking about Urianger and Y'shtola's scene, seems to be the Ghimlyt Dark battlefield.

The bigger indicators of some kind of Light-aspected calamity are the strangely-lit wasteland where the WoL is, and the manifestation of Light-aspected monsters.

I'm talking about both.

The likely cause of it all is tipping the balance, but we can't actually be sure at this point that it's "our fault".

From the scene with Solus and Varis, it seems that Solus is scheming something involving the Black Rose and, from memory, some kind of Light-aspected effect on it.

The MSQ we have so far has made it pretty clear it's our fault. The Ascians are attempting to cause a calamity to prevent the balance from tipping too far to the light.

I don't get that impression at all. He seems to be having flashbacks, Echo-visions of his own past, but that doesn't tell us he's lost his memory. It could just be a fancy story-telling device for the trailer showing us "how we got here".

If anything, I feel like the taunting gremlin would say different things if he was struggling to remember who he was.

Possibly just a storytelling device to review "the story so far", but the expressions of confusion the WoL makes make me suspect there is more to it, like I said.

It's likely that Matoya is somehow in Y'shtola's body, but the details are still entirely unclear. Is Matoya in control? Is Y'shtola in there as well? Is the whole thing a deliberate misdirection?

Another possibility is that Y'shtola has returned, but at some point (probably after that) Matoya has willingly sacrificed her lifeforce to keep Y'shtola alive - and ended up in some kind of two-souls-in-one-body arrangement. We've seen it happen before in this story.

Again, we already know from MSQ that Y'shtola is "gone". Her body is just a shell at the moment. And Urianger was clear that he was talking to Master Matoya. I agree details are uncertain, but Matoya is in Y'shtola's body to be certain. Which, as I said, raises the question of whether the "friend" they waiting to return is the WoL or Y'shtola.

It's the mystery voiceover person who says history needs to be - not quite "rewritten", but "unwritten".

Yes, I misspoke. I meant narrator.

[Iscah]

I'm talking about both.

Ghimlyt doesn't count as evidence of a Calamity though, because it's already like that now.

The MSQ we have so far has made it pretty clear it's our fault. The Ascians are attempting to cause a calamity to prevent the balance from tipping too far to the light.

That's what Elidibus was trying to do with the Warriors' home shard before the Light rendered it unable to be Rejoined to the Source, but I don't know if we even understand what can be done about the same issue on the Source itself.

Elidibus is the only Ascian interested in "balance" rather than spreading Darkness, and has shifted from simply watching us to actively trying to kill us.

And Solus is a complete wildcard who is definitely plotting something.

It's probable we've tipped the balance, but we can't say it for sure. We'll have to wait and see.

Again, we already know from MSQ that Y'shtola is "gone". Her body is just a shell at the moment. And Urianger was clear that he was talking to Master Matoya. I agree details are uncertain, but Matoya is in Y'shtola's body to be certain. Which, as I said, raises the question of whether the "friend" they waiting to return is the WoL or Y'shtola.

Yes, Y'shtola is currently "gone" - but so is Urianger, and in that scene he's either back or conveniently possessed by someone who uses the same archaic grammar. So it's possible, though not guaranteed, that Y'shtola has returned as well.

Also i don't feel like Matoya would refer to Y'shtola as "our friend" - possible, but unlikely. I think it's more probable to be referring to the WoL, as it's the kind of vague way they talk about We-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named in cutscenes, but I'm not really trying to make too much of it for now.

[Kaedan]

Ghimlyt doesn't count as evidence of a Calamity though, because it's already like that now.

That burning area is definitely not Ghimlyt, Doesn't look anything like it.

Unless you're referring to where the WoL and Zenos are fighting... which is Ghimlyt, but is a completely different area from where Urianger and Matoya are.

Also i don't feel like Matoya would refer to Y'shtola as "our friend" - possible, but unlikely. I think it's more probable to be referring to the WoL, as it's the kind of vague way they talk about We-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named in cutscenes, but I'm not really trying to make too much of it for now.

Yes, I also feel that she's probably talking about the WoL.

[Daralii]

That burning area is definitely not Ghimlyt, Doesn't look anything like it.

Unless you're referring to where the WoL and Zenos are fighting... which is Ghimlyt, but is a completely different area from where Urianger and Matoya are.





Yes, I also feel that she's probably talking about the WoL.

It's confirmed that the fire is in Rak'tika Greatwood. When they were doing the zone flythrough, Koji and Yoshida pointed out the area it happened in.

[Iscah]

That burning area is definitely not Ghimlyt, Doesn't look anything like it.

Unless you're referring to where the WoL and Zenos are fighting... which is Ghimlyt, but is a completely different area from where Urianger and Matoya are.

I think I misunderstood what you meant by "both". I took it as "both Ghimlyt and the burning forest" (the two interpretations of "fire and destruction" I'd made earlier) but now on re-reading with the knowledge that was incorrect, I assume you actually mean "the burning forest and the strangely-lit wasteland"?

[Kaedan]

I think I misunderstood what you meant by "both". I took it as "both Ghimlyt and the burning forest" (the two interpretations of "fire and destruction" I'd made earlier) but now on re-reading with the knowledge that was incorrect, I assume you actually mean "the burning forest and the strangely-lit wasteland"?

Indeed ^_^