In regards to the "Warrior of Darkness"; how far is too far?

[Iscah]

I will now be doing every possible fetchquest just to spite the variety of Darkness that doesn't want me to help people.

Just like I spent most of DRK 30-50 going "shut up Fray, we're helping this person out. Willingly."

[Daralii]

Isn't the wol/WoD just there basically to aim for a balance. If the world is overflowing with light WoD is created. If it's overflowing with dark WoL is created. At least that was my understanding. It doesn't mean we'll be evil. The WoD we fight were even just trying to save thier world.

"Save" in a relative sense. According to Urianger(and presumably Elidibus), the flood of Light was going to lock everything on the first shard in an eternal stasis where there was no death. If they triggered a Calamity on the Source and forced the rejoining of their shard, those trapped souls would at least be returned to the Lifestream and could eventually be reborn.

[Cabalabob]

I’ll honestly be surprised if it has any effect on anything, we’ll probably still be collecting people’s laundry and fighting primals it will probably end up pulling a destiny 2 and we are evil for like 1 quest then go back to being the warrior of light.

I’ve stopped expecting any huge plot points that change the status quo after they unkilled nanamo.

I’d be happy to be wrong, I think it would be a really interesting angle for our quests to involve aiding evil. Maybe not directly being evil ourselves but allowing evil to prevail. The good man doing nothing you could say. Kind of like in the DRK quests when Fray tells that ungrateful guy that we should have just let leviathan drown their sorry asses, but actually doing it.

[Jandor]

Light isn't good, Dark isn't evil.

We've used the blessing of light to power most of our deeds so far, and we've done so much with it we're throwing things out of balance.

I reckon you can pretty much sum up the switch as swapping out a battery of light for a battery of dark, we'll still be doing much the same as before, just this time doing so will push things back towards the centre instead of even further towards the light.

Although as Dual said, I hope there is a little bit more to it, or at least a good explanation as to how we've gone too far.

[Kaedan]

From the trailer, we can surmise a few things:

1) Some sort of calamity has happened. Maybe not "the" calamity, but something really bad that causes lots of fire and destruction.
2) We know that the cause was that we tipped the balance too far to the light.
3) The warrior of light we see at the beginning seems to either have lost their memory, or are from another world, because they only learn about the jobs they've been and what they have done through the Echo.
4) Master Matoya has taken over Y'shtola's body. She talks about "our friend" having "gone somewhere" and that she will have to "hold the line" until they return. Now, she could be talking about Y'shtola (who's soul has gone missing), or she's talking about the warrior of light.
5) Urianger talks about "history needing to be rewritten".

So my guess is that some nasty calmity happens and nearly everything is destroyed. Our character (the warrior of light) has to somehow either travel back in time or perhaps "side step" to another world/dimension (much like the Warriors of Darkness did in HW). We then have to become the Warrior of Darkness, which probably won't involve mass murder or anything, but will likely involve some "questionable" things and maybe even reversing some heroic acts we accomplished as WoL. We may even end up fighting ourselves if it involves time travel, who knows.

Then once we restore balance, we'd be able to return to our own time/world/dimension. Lots of holes still, so much is up in the air.

[Alleo]

"Save" in a relative sense. According to Urianger(and presumably Elidibus), the flood of Light was going to lock everything on the first shard in an eternal stasis where there was no death. If they triggered a Calamity on the Source and forced the rejoining of their shard, those trapped souls would at least be returned to the Lifestream and could eventually be reborn.

Hm maybe I remember it wrong but wasnt it more like that a flood of light would leave nothing? Like no life, not even something like the void beings. Thus why they thought it was better to have a rejoining, because then at least the souls would be saved and could be reborn on the original world.

On topic: I think we will just change the name and maybe battle a few light monsters and otherwise stay normal. I cant just imagine us suddenly doing bad stuff especially when they always go around and say that Light is not good and Darkness not evil (yet until know everyone on the dark side were doing quite the bad things, while we normally do a lot of good stuff..)

In the end if its just that, then I wonder why we would even need to change our name...I have the feeling that its simply just to create some hype before the expansion because its sounds more interesting like that.

[Burningskull]

I haven't read the other pages so... keep that in mind.

I think what Warrior for Darkness means is that instead of Being attuned to Hydalyn and all the aether and stuff we send back to her to strengthen her, we will instead attune our selves to Zodiark and send Aether back to him to make him stronger the same way we did for Hydalyn. In the end we will need to attune to both to keep the "balance" in check... Or something along those lines.

[Iscah]

From the trailer, we can surmise a few things:

I think you're misinterpreting some things - or at least interpreting them in a more specific way than they could be intended.

1) Some sort of calamity has happened. Maybe not "the" calamity, but something really bad that causes lots of fire and destruction.

The "fire and destruction", unless you're talking about Urianger and Y'shtola's scene, seems to be the Ghimlyt Dark battlefield.

The bigger indicators of some kind of Light-aspected calamity are the strangely-lit wasteland where the WoL is, and the manifestation of Light-aspected monsters.

2) We know that the cause was that we tipped the balance too far to the light.

The likely cause of it all is tipping the balance, but we can't actually be sure at this point that it's "our fault".

From the scene with Solus and Varis, it seems that Solus is scheming something involving the Black Rose and, from memory, some kind of Light-aspected effect on it.

3) The warrior of light we see at the beginning seems to either have lost their memory, or are from another world, because they only learn about the jobs they've been and what they have done through the Echo.

I don't get that impression at all. He seems to be having flashbacks, Echo-visions of his own past, but that doesn't tell us he's lost his memory. It could just be a fancy story-telling device for the trailer showing us "how we got here".

If anything, I feel like the taunting gremlin would say different things if he was struggling to remember who he was.

4) Master Matoya has taken over Y'shtola's body. She talks about "our friend" having "gone somewhere" and that she will have to "hold the line" until they return. Now, she could be talking about Y'shtola (who's soul has gone missing), or she's talking about the warrior of light.

It's likely that Matoya is somehow in Y'shtola's body, but the details are still entirely unclear. Is Matoya in control? Is Y'shtola in there as well? Is the whole thing a deliberate misdirection?

Another possibility is that Y'shtola has returned, but at some point (probably after that) Matoya has willingly sacrificed her lifeforce to keep Y'shtola alive - and ended up in some kind of two-souls-in-one-body arrangement. We've seen it happen before in this story.

5) Urianger talks about "history needing to be rewritten".

You've got your quotes crossed. Urianger's line is about accepting or denying a foretold fate.

It's the mystery voiceover person who says history needs to be - not quite "rewritten", but "unwritten".

[Kaedan]

The "fire and destruction", unless you're talking about Urianger and Y'shtola's scene, seems to be the Ghimlyt Dark battlefield.

The bigger indicators of some kind of Light-aspected calamity are the strangely-lit wasteland where the WoL is, and the manifestation of Light-aspected monsters.

I'm talking about both.

The likely cause of it all is tipping the balance, but we can't actually be sure at this point that it's "our fault".

From the scene with Solus and Varis, it seems that Solus is scheming something involving the Black Rose and, from memory, some kind of Light-aspected effect on it.

The MSQ we have so far has made it pretty clear it's our fault. The Ascians are attempting to cause a calamity to prevent the balance from tipping too far to the light.

I don't get that impression at all. He seems to be having flashbacks, Echo-visions of his own past, but that doesn't tell us he's lost his memory. It could just be a fancy story-telling device for the trailer showing us "how we got here".

If anything, I feel like the taunting gremlin would say different things if he was struggling to remember who he was.

Possibly just a storytelling device to review "the story so far", but the expressions of confusion the WoL makes make me suspect there is more to it, like I said.

It's likely that Matoya is somehow in Y'shtola's body, but the details are still entirely unclear. Is Matoya in control? Is Y'shtola in there as well? Is the whole thing a deliberate misdirection?

Another possibility is that Y'shtola has returned, but at some point (probably after that) Matoya has willingly sacrificed her lifeforce to keep Y'shtola alive - and ended up in some kind of two-souls-in-one-body arrangement. We've seen it happen before in this story.

Again, we already know from MSQ that Y'shtola is "gone". Her body is just a shell at the moment. And Urianger was clear that he was talking to Master Matoya. I agree details are uncertain, but Matoya is in Y'shtola's body to be certain. Which, as I said, raises the question of whether the "friend" they waiting to return is the WoL or Y'shtola.

It's the mystery voiceover person who says history needs to be - not quite "rewritten", but "unwritten".

Yes, I misspoke. I meant narrator.

[Iscah]

I'm talking about both.

Ghimlyt doesn't count as evidence of a Calamity though, because it's already like that now.

The MSQ we have so far has made it pretty clear it's our fault. The Ascians are attempting to cause a calamity to prevent the balance from tipping too far to the light.

That's what Elidibus was trying to do with the Warriors' home shard before the Light rendered it unable to be Rejoined to the Source, but I don't know if we even understand what can be done about the same issue on the Source itself.

Elidibus is the only Ascian interested in "balance" rather than spreading Darkness, and has shifted from simply watching us to actively trying to kill us.

And Solus is a complete wildcard who is definitely plotting something.

It's probable we've tipped the balance, but we can't say it for sure. We'll have to wait and see.

Again, we already know from MSQ that Y'shtola is "gone". Her body is just a shell at the moment. And Urianger was clear that he was talking to Master Matoya. I agree details are uncertain, but Matoya is in Y'shtola's body to be certain. Which, as I said, raises the question of whether the "friend" they waiting to return is the WoL or Y'shtola.

Yes, Y'shtola is currently "gone" - but so is Urianger, and in that scene he's either back or conveniently possessed by someone who uses the same archaic grammar. So it's possible, though not guaranteed, that Y'shtola has returned as well.

Also i don't feel like Matoya would refer to Y'shtola as "our friend" - possible, but unlikely. I think it's more probable to be referring to the WoL, as it's the kind of vague way they talk about We-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named in cutscenes, but I'm not really trying to make too much of it for now.