Submersible Information Thread

[Norri_Matora]

I'm thinking that might be less likely as well. Did a little research in the old Airships thread and the speculation was that the repair status of the ships didn't affect the actual voyage as so much as it just barred you from initiating them. Like I said, I'll keep running the fit and see if it was due to the Surveillance being too low. From the reports in this thread, I've only seen 175 Surveillance boats confirmed to have picked up the Otter.

[PrincessAli]

I'm thinking that might be less likely as well. Did a little research in the old Airships thread and the speculation was that the repair status of the ships didn't affect the actual voyage as so much as it just barred you from initiating them. Like I said, I'll keep running the fit and see if it was due to the Surveillance being too low. From the reports in this thread, I've only seen 175 Surveillance boats confirmed to have picked up the Otter.

your submarine failed the 2nd hit on the same sector which initially has a low rate of happening (screen the same sector again during the same voyage). I'm not sure which stat affect double visits to the same sector (could be Favor), but even with high stat, it would be still has low RNG. So, I wouldn't worry about that.
I got my Otter minion with a 145 surveillance. Though I got it only once maybe because of low favor of 100.

[chiya]

I'm thinking that might be less likely as well. Did a little research in the old Airships thread and the speculation was that the repair status of the ships didn't affect the actual voyage as so much as it just barred you from initiating them. Like I said, I'll keep running the fit and see if it was due to the Surveillance being too low. From the reports in this thread, I've only seen 175 Surveillance boats confirmed to have picked up the Otter.

I picked up an Otter few days ago with UWUC build. I only send this ship to Deep-sea Site 7 and done maybe 10 trips with it. Only one otter so far. Other ships prioritize unlocking other zones which I'm having horrible luck with, though I include Deep Sea Site 7 in those voyages as well. No luck on those either and those ships have 150 Surv.

The minimum surv for Otter must be 145 or lower, but the Otter itself is just so rare that there aren't many reports of it being found.





By the way on topic of the stats .. If what above is correct and Favor affects the odds of finding more anomalies per zone (more items) then what affects the odds of there being anomalies but you not being able find them? I'm referring to the message that's something along the lines of "Additional anomalies detected but submersible status insufficient for further exploration". I can't remember the exact wording but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. What's the point of having two hits per zone with enough favor if the other hit is still unreachable due to "insufficient levels".

[Norri_Matora]

I picked up an Otter few days ago with UWUC build. I only send this ship to Deep-sea Site 7 and done maybe 10 trips with it. Only one otter so far. Other ships prioritize unlocking other zones which I'm having horrible luck with, though I include Deep Sea Site 7 in those voyages as well. No luck on those either and those ships have 150 Surv.

The minimum surv for Otter must be 145 or lower, but the Otter itself is just so rare that there aren't many reports of it being found.

Awesome! Thank you for that report, that helps a bunch!

Edit: Based on that idea, perhaps a build that increases the chance of picking up multiple items would be best for Deep-Sea Site 7 after all.

[T_Moon]

Since its the topic of discussion on the thread, My C,SY,C,SY Sub brought back an Otter tonight. Mission time to Site 7 is 54 hours per trip.



I honestly don't know what is influencing some parts of the voyage, but this sub has 90 favor and only found one thing then departed. No missed, nothing else found sea conditions were Clear and Calm.



I hope we can pin it down as we get more missions reported in.

[Ramesses]

Since its the topic of discussion on the thread, My C,SY,C,SY Sub brought back an Otter tonight. Mission time to Site 7 is 54 hours per trip.



I honestly don't know what is influencing some parts of the voyage, but this sub has 90 favor and only found one thing then departed. No missed, nothing else found sea conditions were Clear and Calm.



I hope we can pin it down as we get more missions reported in.

Thanks for this... helps explain a couple things.

[Norri_Matora]

By the way on topic of the stats .. If what above is correct and Favor affects the odds of finding more anomalies per zone (more items) then what affects the odds of there being anomalies but you not being able find them? I'm referring to the message that's something along the lines of "Additional anomalies detected but submersible status insufficient for further exploration". I can't remember the exact wording but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. What's the point of having two hits per zone with enough favor if the other hit is still unreachable due to "insufficient levels".

It's hard to pinpoint currently whether the second zone failing on the second anomaly is due to a lack of surveillance, weather effect disturbance, or if a rarer item on the second hit automatically fails due to some kind of reduced stat effect. Right now, I'm chalking it up to RNG for the second anomaly success rate. On paper, the first anomaly should still benefit from the full effects of the submersible stats and the CCSyC has had successful second anomalies in the last 3 or 4 trips it has taken (minus the report I made a couple posts ago regarding the missed anomaly issue).

For the ships I'm currently reviewing and considering for my own fleet, I'm enjoying the CCSyC fitting enough that I'm going to convert the Triple-Node ship into that instead. The two CWWC haulers are doing fine for the money invested and will probably be converted to CSySySy once Kamacite Ore drops to a lower gil value (still too profitable not to sell, lol).