Gender locked race?

[Anyan]

This thread is such an emotional rollercoaster. Lol! Some of you are so optimistic and find the thought that SE would genderlock to be ludicrous. I get my hopes up a little bit. But then comes the people who are either hoping that we won't get male Vieras, or are just as cynical as me, and I'm back to square one of expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

For me it's not even that important what they'd look like. If they look amazing, I'll fantasia of course. It's the actual genderlocking that grinds my gears. So if we get our male bunbuns but I don't like the look of them, I'll still happily continue paying and playing.

[Riardon]

If they indeed introduce 2 gender locked races that's going to be one of the most stupid decisions Yoshi & Co ever took.
It's going to blow up on their faces pretty hard.
While most of us want male Viera and this thread is about them I can imagine there will be another big crowd who will want female Hrotghar or whatever it's going to be called.
The reason we don't have a thread yet is because this race is not confirmed or shown yet.

[Fland]

If we indeed end up with two gender-locked races for ShB, then I honestly can't understand the logical decision behind this.
There will be 99% chance that significant part of the playerbase will complain and demand the gender-lock to be removed, so SE should know that they will end up making two full races anyway.
If the reasoning is that making two full races takes a lot of resources, then why don't release one full race first then add the other full race later?
I don't see how making two half races is better than making one full race resource-wise.

[Ceasaria]

M'ok, they were just stirring us and it worked. But that's a lot to offer... We're speaking about the team that offered us limited jobs here.

Since before Heavensward they were already thinking about the Viera.
So they could have worked on it since several years and finished them a bit after the release of Stormblood or before but couldn't deliver it for 4.0 and didn't want to add them after that, waiting the right moment.
So they decided to wait for 5.0 to launch them, and by the time deciding to do another race with them, who knows.

+ Designing a job and a race doesn't use the same ressources. There is no game design in designing a race.

[Mansion]

Since before Heavensward they were already thinking about the Viera.
So they could have worked on it since several years and finished them a bit after the release of Stormblood or before but couldn't deliver it for 4.0 and didn't want to add them after that, waiting the right moment.
So they decided to wait for 5.0 to launch them, and by the time deciding to do another race with them, who knows.

+ Designing a job and a race doesn't use the same ressources. There is no game design in designing a race.

Yeah of course, I was just joking about the fact that it would be a good surprise and addition of content, instead of BLU that came OUT OF THE BLUE (sorry. *exits*) and did not meet player's expectations.

[Alleo]

I certainly understand that, but what of highlander females? Yes, they're not super bulky or butch but they're less cutesy than any other female pick and they're still pretty. I get the impression that some people just want reverse dimorphism, because I struggle to see how roe or highlander females can't be played as amazonian. Or is there some other issue with them? Maybe I'm missing what is meant by "beastly" here.


I mean Zurvan and Byakko both have handsome faces, but they're muscular. Muscularity is a trait that is perceived to be attractive on males, mostly for evolutionary reasons. Not necessarily to extremes, and yes Zurvan has a scorpion body (much like Lamias have snake bodies), and I'll agree that the balance is definitely more in favour of the women being beautiful, but I can't say it bothers me that much. As I said, there's plenty of females out there that we simply can't tell are females. I'm sure Sorceress Adel will make a cameo at some point, though.

I must be alone in not finding Seiryu particularly attractive.

No highlanders are still quite just humans and are still quite pretty.

Well maybe instead of beastly you could use monsterous. (Sry the part about Roe being more beastly was a bit wrong from me) You know similiar to beast tribes. None of the current races even come near that because in the end most of them are nearly just human with animal parts on them. The only ones that might be more beastly are maybe the male Au Ra but even those just have some scales that kinda looks like a skin decease and horns/tail.

Zurvan may have a bit of a human like face (that one could barely see) but the rest of his body is monsterous. The same with bosses like Diabolos, Sephirot and even Byakko has a tiger arm. Yet the only thing beastial on sophia is the head beneath her, while the rest of her body is perfectly human, Lakshmi has a complete human upper body and is quite beautiful and the snake part of her is not even visible. Then like Billy pointed out, the male boss in Eureka is a monster, while the female one could count as girlfriend material. Its just quite often that females are much more human looking than the males ones. Thus it would not be surprising if the Hrothgar would be male only and more beastly/monsterous and have no female counterpart (or if the female counterpart would be small, cute and more human looking)

In the end I just want a male Viera for all those that play them and if Hrothgar are coming and they are more beastly, then I want it to be the same for both genders.

... it really says a lot when you think a company is basing their decisions solely on the opinions of you that more than likely does not exist to begin with. That's what I mean though, some good things are not good enough, you need all the good things to be satisfied. It's manic.

And sad to say I am not invested enough in this MMO to white knight it. I like it. But I am not going to get zealous about it. Pointing out asinine behavior and white knighting are two very different pieces of pie.

First Yoshida and his team has stated more than once that criticism is worth more then compliments because they do understand that they need people that pay for the game to have a game. So if people dont like certain things and these things are a huge deal for them, they have the right to complain/post about it. Does this force SE to do something? No but not saying anything at all and then silenty leaving is the worst for a company because then they have no clue why people leave.

Race might not be a big enough reason for you and others to unsub, but for some it might be. For others they might already have enough other smaller negative points and a missing gender for a race could be the tipping point for them to unsub too. Others might not like it either but dont care enough to do something. And some dont care at all. Each one of them have the right to write about it. But all of that without personal insults.

[Shougun]

I feel like the devs are looking at this thread and just laughing their asses off.

I made something real quick for this thread :3

FFXIV Meme Generator "Interview w/ Yoshi-P on Male Viera" (joke):
http://captiongenerator.com/1289462/...orums-on-Viera

Hope we all get what we want come Japan FanFest/Release

[Lacan]

… how much longer till Japanese fanfest?? The wait is killing me! I just wanna know one way or another already.

[Shougun]

… how much longer till Japanese fanfest?? The wait is killing me! I just wanna know one way or another already.

https://www.tickcounter.com/countdow...-japan-fanfest

33 days more

[JamiaHaab]

I'm pretty confident that for whatever reason (yoshi thinks male rabbits are weird) Viera will be gender locked. Let's just accept that that is how the start of shb is gonna be. But I'm also confident that, if people keep asking, male viera and female hrothgar will be added. Yoshi said they added female viera just because it kept being asked for, so if he doesn't want to keep hearing "when are you going to add viera?" he'll give y'all the man buns.