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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamiaHaab View Post
    I'm glad in this game you're not told how to interact with the world just because of you're visual preferences. Like how I love the Raen look but I'm not super into Asian culture. I also don't like the racism that comes from games like GW2 and WoW. Do you celebrate the fact that male Viera and(probably) female Hrothgar aren't playable because of lore and their culture?
    Cultural differences are fascinating and are to be celebrated as far as I'm concerned. I don't need fantasy settings to adhere to modern day values and erode away any differences that serve to make different cultures distinct. Racism as a plot device also doesn't bother me, since I recognise the difference between fiction and reality.
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    Art imitates life and its dumb and boring either way. Yay genderlock
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamiaHaab View Post
    Wow, you two like racism in your games when it affect people irl. I'll give up and just block.
    Assuming both that this wasn't meant to be some gotcha/troll attempt and you haven't blocked me consider it this way:

    In game you kill lots and lots and lots of people.

    I ask what you like to do, and you say combat in this game is great.

    I respond "wow you like to murder things? blocked".

    Fictional racism against fictional entities cannot equate exactly to real life racism without some CATASTROPHIC concerns in a massive amount of areas. It's a game and if it can't be treated as a game then the logic that protects one element must fail for many many others, unless there is a element of not thinking the whole process through or an element dishonesty.

    You see these arguments against sexy or violent things all the time, and at least as a "gamer" I find it a bit frustrating because honest logic will not flow from that argument unless they're wielding it incredibly consistently (which almost no one is on this issue "ripping spine out or running down innocents in a car game okay, boobs not okay that's a moral issue!" yeh.. okey lol). Or you can kill people but you can't kill animals (PETA had a thing way back when with whales in an assassins creed pirate game), if killing the animals is an issue then we have a much larger issue first.. which is killing people.

    Alternatively you could just be yanking our chain. . . XD.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamiaHaab View Post
    Art imitates life and its dumb and boring either way. Yay genderlock
    Genderlock is not confirmed, neither is Hrothgar technically lol.

    It could be Viera male and female and no Hrothgar :O
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-27-2019 at 07:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Assuming both that this wasn't meant to be some gotcha/troll attempt and you haven't blocked me consider it this way:

    In game you kill lots and lots and lots of people.

    I ask what you like to do, and you say combat in this game is great.

    I respond "wow you like to murder things? blocked".
    It's become the modern-day equivalent of yelling 'heretic', tbh, and I notice the outrage about it is always very selective and one-directional, with instances that don't fit certain narratives conveniently brushed under the carpet and rationalised away. So I struggle to really take comments like his seriously, especially when used to stymie such differences in a game, where they add to what makes it interesting. And yeah, apparently much worse than the killing sprees you go on as the WoL.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    It has yet to be confirmed as to whether or not there will actually be a gender lock in place. We do not get a definite answer until late March.
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    Anyway, back to the topic of bunny men...
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    By the way, would a male Viera be wearing high heels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    By the way, would a male Viera be wearing high heels?
    The females do because that's how their feet are structured, similar to a bunny standing on its hind legs. Because, you know, Viera are bunnies. Going by That Concept Art™, the males have the same foot structure, so it stands to reason that any footwear they'll come with should offer similar support.
    Namely, high heels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    The females do because that's how their feet are structured, similar to a bunny standing on its hind legs. Because, you know, Viera are bunnies. Going by That Concept Art™, the males have the same foot structure, so it stands to reason that any footwear they'll come with should offer similar support.
    Namely, high heels.
    Concept art shows that the males don't actually have the heel. So it might be less about support and more regards to their culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Concept art shows that the males don't actually have the heel. So it might be less about support and more regards to their culture.
    That's because the devs are cowards
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